• the_wiz@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    Nobody is illegal

    I hate this so much…

    The thing is: YOU might not be “illegal”, but entering your neighbors house without his consent indeed is illegal.

    What would you do if a random number of strangers would tomorrow at noon decide that it would be a great idea to just enter your house?

    • anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      7 hours ago

      The right to asylum was put into the constitution because many victims of the holocaust where denied entry to other counties before getting rounded up and killed.

      If a stranger is running down the street, chased by a guy with a blood soaked knife, would you let them in?

      Edit: spelling

      • LazyGit@feddit.org
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        23 hours ago

        And also between the thing you are doing being illegal and you being illegal

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          21 hours ago

          Then at least they should start saying “people who illegally immigrate” or something like that, because “illegal immigrants” does make it sound like its the people themselves who are illegal and that rhetoric only serves the far right

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          22 hours ago

          When the law is immoral, ignoring the law is the right thing to do. Turning away asylum seekers at the border is immoral and probably also violates EU law. Which the fucktard Dobrint already knew. Because he is a fucktard and also fucked up the Autobahn Maut back then and he also knew that it was probably not legal back then, too.

          • the_wiz@feddit.org
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            22 hours ago

            Where is this immoral? Are the EU countries bordering Germany that bad of a place? I don’t think so…

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              13 hours ago

              How is it morally right to put the perceived (by people like you I assume) burden of immigration only on the countries with EU outer borders?

              It’s also immoral to perceive these people as a burden in the first place.

              • the_wiz@feddit.org
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                21 hours ago

                Well, the point is that due to the Dublin III regulation the state in which the refuge seeking person first enters the EU is primarily responsible for the asylum procedure. So, there IS a proper asylum procedure the refuge seeking persons can apply to.

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                  21 hours ago

                  The point is, this fetish for "migrants“ is first of all inhumane, and besides that also expensive and inefficient. It’s absolute brainrot no matter the amount of mental gymnastics politicians, media, and people like you are doing to justify it.

                  • the_wiz@feddit.org
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                    21 hours ago

                    It’s not a fetish, its just the point that there is more grey to this than either “CLOSE THE BORDERS!1!” or “NOBODY IS ILLEGAL!1!”…

                    And regarding this “people like you” thing: What people do you mean? What category of people do you think i fit in?

            • federal reverse@feddit.orgM
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              17 hours ago

              Not sure if you’re serious… If you’re seeking refuge, many of the countries bordering Germany are terrible places, Poland and Czechia especially.

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                13 hours ago

                How are Poland and Czechia terrible? I get why they might not be the first choice for everyone, but “terrible” is REALLY stretching it. And I say this as a citizen of country where lots of people emmigrate from into Czechia, because they consider it a better place.

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                16 hours ago

                Well yeah, those places may be not that nice, but they are a far cry from an actual ongoing conflict zone or something like that. At this place you can apply for asylum and if it is granted you can look for further options…

                If someone wants to chose a nice place to live and work at… well, there is the normal immigration procedure for that.