• ⓝⓞ🅞🅝🅔@lemmy.ca
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    I understand the issue. It’s clear. What I don’t understand is this article focusing on Ocasio-Cortez’s “by the light of day” comment.

    Are people watching these proceedings live on C-Span with their hand on the phone ready to call their congressperson’s office? If Republicans pushed this through “during the light of day,” would it make any actual difference? Why can’t congresspersons challenge this in the middle of the night? Does Ocasio-Cortez think Republican constituents will be making those calls to change the minds of their politicians? 🤔

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      If Republicans pushed this through “during the light of day,” would it make any actual difference

      Yes, actually. The propaganda machine usually needs a minute to spin up and align talking points. Pushing things through at midnight gives them the ability to carefully prepare the first round of headlines and social media posts for when Americans wake up.

      First impressions are by far the most important in propaganda.

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      Republican voters are way more engaged than Democrat or progressive voters. Any day of the week.

      It’s why they have so much more content, content creators and social media presence. They put in the work. But not just put in the work. They target specific areas that are effective for either changing public opinion or applying pressure to government to get their issue across.

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          I really hate Meidas touch. It’s clickbait titles going on about nothingburger events. “Trump slammed” “republicans make catastrophic mistake” “Republican makes career ending move” Its just a left wing version of Info Wars

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            Make up your mind. Either the left competes with the right or you just sit and complain how they don’t compete with the right enough. And I disagree with nothing burger. The DOJ keeps getting wiped in court. And the congress is scrappy, dems are tripping the magamind congress into admitting mistakes. And you’ll need this exposure for the midterms so people know exactly what kind of scum their rep is.

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              I think that comment is proving what I’m saying. Every time there’s momentum on the left, it’s not perfect and therefore can’t support it. Without any media being supported there’s no momentum.

              If you look in the right, they’re still pissed off about Rosanne. I just saw a YouTube comment yesterday pissed off at John Goodman for being a back stabber. Lots of upvotes and jokes. And that rallying is absent for anything on the left

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        They put in the work because the oligarchs are aligned with them, so they have a basically unlimited firehose of money to pay people to shill for them.

        Meanwhile, leftists have to rely on volunteer labor.

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          That can be part of it. But it isn’t the whole reason. They’re engaged. They do strategize and organize much better.

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              No it isn’t their full time job. That’s making excuses for why they’re more effective. They’re more effective because they had orgs that figured it out while they also had enough social awareness to understand the assignment given to them. Defend your party. Succeed. Create content. Share content.

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                No it isn’t their full time job.

                So you’re saying the staff at orgs like the Heritage Foundation aren’t getting paid? Where’s their $108 million in expenses (according to Wikipedia) going, then?

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                  Sorry, you’re right in that case. Heritage foundation does. But the guy driving around my neighborhood with decals and posting online with his multiple “own the libs” groups is not full time. He’s an electrician who’s probably autistic.

                  The Internet is a massive force multiplier. This is why groups like the heritage foundation works to research how best to utilize it. They don’t focus their people on public protests or half the shit the left does. They utilize that Internet. They take advantage of people who are not full time but are passionate.

                  Just think for a minute how many people have shown up to protests across the country for the past 10 years. Think of what they could accomplish if they instead created content like this. We need eyes and ears catching this stuff, distilling it down, creating it and then sharing it.

                  https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJe5IKDvJsv/

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                    The Internet is a massive force multiplier. This is why groups like the heritage foundation works to research how best to utilize it. They don’t focus their people on public protests or half the shit the left does.

                    That’s my point: the left doesn’t have the equivalent of groups like the Heritage Foundation to figure out how to do that force multiplication. It takes resources to do that, and the only people supplying the resources are doing so in service of capital, not against it.

                    Just think for a minute how many people have shown up to protests across the country for the past 10 years. Think of what they could accomplish if they instead created content like this.

                    A protestor and a trained think-tank analyist who does propaganda as their full-time job are not interchangable. You can’t just tell protestors to create content like the right-wing bot farmers instead; they don’t have the skillset for it. They also don’t control the platforms like Murdoch, Zuckerberg and Musk do, for that matter. There are many, many reasons why right-wing propaganda is so effective that left-wingers simply cannot replicate without a fuckton of money, no matter how much unskilled volunteer labor they have.

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        I think you are overestimating just how much constituents are invested in what their politicians actually do

        Many many many persons feel the side effects, the burn, of their elected politicians deviating from what they hoped. And yet each election cycle, these politicians continue to be voted in.

        I mean, they get mad, but mad enough to watch C-Span and make calls…? 😅

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          I guess but it has been many years of them feeling the burn from their own party. Can’t tell if any of them are waking up or not.

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            It’s been a slow burn, like a frog in boiling water, with policies mostly affecting younger people. The Heritage Foundation came up with a detailed 50 year plan in 1973 to completely take over the country to make it more corporate and Christian, and we’ve been seeing that play out ever since Reagan.

            Second Thought has a good video about them here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eeCPRD0Hgg

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            Honestly, they’re not.

            I hate to say it, but the system needs to crash and burn for people to wake up. I need and want to avoid that at all costs, but some people… most people… don’t seem to be able to learn without it.

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      This is classic language to pacify you, to make you think someone is out there speaking and a fighting on your behalf.

      They’re literally attacking Medicare? Don’t worry AOC is putting the GOP in their place, she’s SLAMMING them and ripping them a new one!