Ebay Could Owe $1.9 Billion in Fines for Allowing Sale of 343,000 Emissions Defeat Devices::The Department of Justice alleges that eBay illegally sold 343,011 emissions defeat devices, and could face billions in penalties.

  • Delphia@lemm.ee
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    Damn near every aftermarket automotive part I have ever bought contains some variation of the “This is not intended for use on street vehicles, offroad and race use only” somewhere in the description.

    I can cut out my cat and weld in a piece of 2 inch pipe and I just created an emissions defeat device… I can fit an oil catch can, if I plug the breather tube back into the intake its legal, if I vent to atmosphere its not.

    I mean, people who “roll coal” have no sympathy from me but this case is nowhere near as cut and dried as a lot of people think.

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      I trust the DOJ to be able to distinguish between a 2 inch pipe and more deliberate devices.

      • PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works
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        Let me introduce you to our friends the ATF. Or the USDA and their wonderful food pyramid. Government agencies have agendas. You should look at facts and not blindly trust them.

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          Please tell us the facts of eBay being accused of selling devices that defeat emissions tests. I’m sure we would all love to hear them.

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            I have no clue how you think I care about that. Don’t blindly trust government agencies.

            Do you think the ATF can tell the difference between a shoe string and a machine gun?

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                  I love it because they have absolutely no alternative source for information like this. They just tell you it’s wrong and to “do your own research.” Which, generally, I’ve already done when they tell me to do that and come to the opposite conclusion they’ve come to.

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                I didn’t make any statements about the facts. Can you read? I said don’t trust three letter agencies.

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                  Weird, it must have been some other PsychedSy who said:

                  You should look at facts and not blindly trust them.

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              Technically, a coathanger is a machine gun if you modify it to a certain configuration.

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                I appreciate someone that at least knows where I was going. And it’s not a machine gun, you’ll sure as fuck get prosecuted like it is, tho.

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                  Legally speaking, it is a machine gun, but yes I do share your sentiment that it is not one.

                  You won’t get prosecuted for it though as long as you don’t possess a weapon that it can fit in.

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            Here? Prolly none. Still, it’s not exactly a situation where you need a government authority to choose a position, is it?

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              The DOJ should not work to enforce the laws of the country? What role should the department of justice have then?

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                How do you people come up with this insane shit? I never said any of that. Or anything near it. I never even commented on the situation.

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                  It’s hopeless my dude. Lemmy is filled with either wannabe revolutionaries or establishment toadies. There’s no healthy scepticism to be found yet.

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          The dietary illuminati hid their food pyramid atop the unfinished pyramid of the one dollar bill! It’s pyramids all the way down!