This is a clickbait headline. The headline implies that the German State is using AI to censor. It is not!
While there might be a lot to criticize the German State/Goverment for, this is not it.
It is a different actor developing a model, not the state. One can rightly criticize that, but that is definitely protected under scientific freedom.
[…] the Decoding Antisemitism project at the Center for Research on Antisemitism at the Technical University Berlin […]. With the help of a large language computing model, the project aims to create “an [AI] algorithm that will automatically recognize antisemitic statements in web comments . . . so that antisemitic posts can be removed more efficiently and accurately” by online platforms.
Yeah, let’s insult other users based on their instance. That is really helpful, will bring peace to the middle east and make the fediverse the dominant social media network in the world.
You are in an instance prohibiting talking qbout boycott the only options we have to help even 0.1% the palestinians. Your instance prohibit educating people about the cancer called zionism the source of the problem
I don’t see you guys in posts about israel crimes but appear like a genie when zionism is compared to nazim despite both having the same rhetoric just different population they target
You don’t see to be bothered whem people get insulted for being in .ml instance
I believe that’s what some people who don’t like the instance claim. I’m pretty sure I read that, too. But I really can’t find it in the rules written by themselves. You can nit however say the state of Israel needs to be dissolved in the process, I think that’s banned.
Israel made it impossible for a two state solution to happen with all the illegal settlements. What’s wrong with dissolving Israel and create a one state solution where both can has the same rights?
The word “state” doesn’t appear a single time in reference to Germany in the whole article. Germany, despite their pervasive state-oriented mentality, is not just its state. It’s the society, the people and other institutions.
Also TU is a public university, so it’s still an emanation of the state, state-funded and state-controlled.
Why do you want to be evem more wrong?
Neither the state nor the collective of German people do want the headline implies. It’s a group of people doing it under the <freedom> of science concept. People are to US-triggered and believe every state does day2day politics like Trump.
I live in Germany and I’m not from the USA. It has nothing to do with the USA. Many Germans do want this genocide to happen and they still defend it. It’s a daily lived experience, it has nothing to do with online discussions, let alone with Americans. Germany doesn’t have the same concept of military-industrial complex like the USA (even though they might have started rebuilding it recently), but universities do research to enable genocide, like many universities around the world.
I’m Italian, and Leonardo does the same with universities in Italy, using young naive researchers to build weapons used in Palestine or by other undemocratic governments throughout the world.
I don’t get what’s so weird to you: universities have alwasy been complicit of horrible stuff.
Oh come on, just accept that the wording of the headline is wrong and misleading.
If a Country is named in the headline like this, it is always implied to be the state/government. No other interpretation makes sense, the society is surely not using ai to censor.
Even if we consider that not to be the case, just for the sake of the argument, you still can not say “a few people at this project” = “Germany (Society)”. I heavily caution you to not go down the generalization route of “a select group” = “german society”. You ought to think about what that assertion would mean in the context of hamas and palastinians.
Also TU is a public university, so it’s still an emanation of the state, state-funded and state-controlled.
While universities get funding from the state, they are mostly free to research what they choose. On the projects website is also no sign of direct funding by the state. You are free to criticize the research, but what you are implying is that the state should censor the direction of research because you don‘t like it, which is quite ironic.
The outcome is responsibility of the whole environment. This project didn’t come out of nowhere.
It’s not just who’s doing but who allowed it. If somebody murdered children in my hometown I would hold social services and mental health services responsible for that.
Your opinions are all influenced by the outside. The distinction is just between influences you ignore/accept and influences you reject. We are not born with opinions.
You are completely missing the point.
Obviously opinions are influenced by your environment.
The difference is if you tell me about a thing that happened and I can form my own opinion on the topic or if you want me to feel a certain way about a thing that happened and thus steering my sentiment.
I thought it was the state from the headline too. maybe because of German’s state past behaviour on the topic and high likelihood of it doing such a thing sort of naturally completed the narrative in my head
This is a clickbait headline. The headline implies that the German State is using AI to censor. It is not! While there might be a lot to criticize the German State/Goverment for, this is not it.
It is a different actor developing a model, not the state. One can rightly criticize that, but that is definitely protected under scientific freedom.
Depriving the internet of an opportunity for good old German bashing. How sinister of you. /s
So an israli think tank is using US tax dollars funding a project at a Berlin University that identifies antisemitism with no accountability?
Yeah that’s all above board.
jacobin.com is not a reliable source
Go back to feddit.org nobody want to hear your pretense of caring about palestinians
Yeah, let’s insult other users based on their instance. That is really helpful, will bring peace to the middle east and make the fediverse the dominant social media network in the world.
You are in an instance prohibiting talking qbout boycott the only options we have to help even 0.1% the palestinians. Your instance prohibit educating people about the cancer called zionism the source of the problem
I don’t see you guys in posts about israel crimes but appear like a genie when zionism is compared to nazim despite both having the same rhetoric just different population they target
You don’t see to be bothered whem people get insulted for being in .ml instance
You really should read the original announcement of the feddit.org mods, because what you are saying is absolutely not what the rules there are.
Apparently calling for a one state solution where Israeli and palestinian live peacefully is prohibited
You can read the post here: https://feddit.org/post/12529640
There is nothing there containing a one state solution and also german law totally doesn’t prohibit calling for it.
And BTW: You have a autocorrect error in your post: “leave” vs “live” can lead to people misunderstanding your point.
The comment in that link that was removed called for a one state solution and was removes
I believe that’s what some people who don’t like the instance claim. I’m pretty sure I read that, too. But I really can’t find it in the rules written by themselves. You can nit however say the state of Israel needs to be dissolved in the process, I think that’s banned.
Israel made it impossible for a two state solution to happen with all the illegal settlements. What’s wrong with dissolving Israel and create a one state solution where both can has the same rights?
The word “state” doesn’t appear a single time in reference to Germany in the whole article. Germany, despite their pervasive state-oriented mentality, is not just its state. It’s the society, the people and other institutions.
Also TU is a public university, so it’s still an emanation of the state, state-funded and state-controlled.
Why do you want to be evem more wrong? Neither the state nor the collective of German people do want the headline implies. It’s a group of people doing it under the <freedom> of science concept. People are to US-triggered and believe every state does day2day politics like Trump.
I live in Germany and I’m not from the USA. It has nothing to do with the USA. Many Germans do want this genocide to happen and they still defend it. It’s a daily lived experience, it has nothing to do with online discussions, let alone with Americans. Germany doesn’t have the same concept of military-industrial complex like the USA (even though they might have started rebuilding it recently), but universities do research to enable genocide, like many universities around the world.
I’m Italian, and Leonardo does the same with universities in Italy, using young naive researchers to build weapons used in Palestine or by other undemocratic governments throughout the world.
I don’t get what’s so weird to you: universities have alwasy been complicit of horrible stuff.
Then edit the title (yes you can do that here) to reflect that. Mention the TU and point them out in particular
Oh come on, just accept that the wording of the headline is wrong and misleading.
If a Country is named in the headline like this, it is always implied to be the state/government. No other interpretation makes sense, the society is surely not using ai to censor.
Even if we consider that not to be the case, just for the sake of the argument, you still can not say “a few people at this project” = “Germany (Society)”. I heavily caution you to not go down the generalization route of “a select group” = “german society”. You ought to think about what that assertion would mean in the context of hamas and palastinians.
While universities get funding from the state, they are mostly free to research what they choose. On the projects website is also no sign of direct funding by the state. You are free to criticize the research, but what you are implying is that the state should censor the direction of research because you don‘t like it, which is quite ironic.
Mentioning a country by the name implies it’s the government doing it.
Else you need to name the individual/organization that does it.
How would you feel if I said “[Insert OP’s first name] murders childrens and fucks their bodies” while being in your hometown?
Same energy.
The outcome is responsibility of the whole environment. This project didn’t come out of nowhere.
It’s not just who’s doing but who allowed it. If somebody murdered children in my hometown I would hold social services and mental health services responsible for that.
In that case it should (IMO) be “A government backed project at the TU is using AI to erase/eliminate/minimize Pro-Palestinian Speech”.
Now this is obviously not as catchy but you get my drift. Accuracy vs Inflammatory/opinion/sentiment steering.
And especially on Lemmy I dislike outside influence on my opinion and wish for a neutral stance.
Your opinions are all influenced by the outside. The distinction is just between influences you ignore/accept and influences you reject. We are not born with opinions.
You are completely missing the point.
Obviously opinions are influenced by your environment.
The difference is if you tell me about a thing that happened and I can form my own opinion on the topic or if you want me to feel a certain way about a thing that happened and thus steering my sentiment.
One is neutral. The second is obviously not.
that’s not how information and journalism works, but ok bro, keep believing in “objectivity” lol
I thought it was the state from the headline too. maybe because of German’s state past behaviour on the topic and high likelihood of it doing such a thing sort of naturally completed the narrative in my head