Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.
Are you seriously unable to differentiate between someone saying that we shouldn’t be so quick to take violence off the table, and “I have a plan and the means to immediately begin using violence this second?”
Violence and Non Violence are tools, you don’t throw out your screwdriver when you get a hammer and you don’t try hammering in a screw without trying the screwdriver first.
You can prefer to resolve things peacefully while recognizing that it likely won’t work at the same time.
If someone says 'I think all people should have healthcare" do you respond with 'Go become a Doctor then!"
The far left are pussies for not taking action, and the Liberals are far worse because they are half the reason we are in this mess. Y’all want to prop up Capitalism and Corporations, this is what you get. It doesn’t matter if you asked the ruling class to play nice with the power you handed them or not, it’s not our fault you are so naive.
Oh it’s my personal fault huh? Man, you guys just like blaming everyone but the left don’t you?
You’d rather burn the country down and have people fight the fight you want, and you expect people to believe you will go put rounds down range on these people when you wouldn’t even walk to the voters booth and vote against literal nazis.
What an amazing fucking hypocrite you are. It’s not surprising, it’s what liberals are good at.
You are so quick to blame the Left for your Performative Pig not winning the election, but take no responsibility whatsoever for putting that piece of shit on the ballot in the first place. Before that it was a senile old man you were convinced was going to save us. You guys are the ones blaming everyone but yourselves.
You’d rather burn the country down and have people fight the fight you want
It’s you that keep on spouting the lie that Leftists are just sitting around waiting on a bunch of fucking Libs to fight for us. Literally no one has said that but you. That makes perfect sense, seeing as how the Libs haven’t done jack shit other than put ‘Vote Blue No Matter Who’ bumper stickers on their cars and going into a booth once every 4 years so they can get the coveted “I voted” badge of honor.
It makes even more sense considering the libs done everything in their power to ensure that it’s only the cops and military that actually have effective weapons to fight with. All you can do is capitulate, lick boots, and act as if inanimate objects are the problem and not the capitalist pigs you keep voting for, so of course we are just sitting around expecting you cowards to actually fight when the time comes. /s because I’m sure you need it spelled out for you.
If and when peacefully protesting inevitably fails and it comes time to defend ourselves, you can bet your ass it will be Leftists doing the fighting while the Blue losers are writing strongly worded letters to their senators and cowering in their basements.
you wouldn’t even walk to the voters booth and vote against literal nazis.
And again with the blaming everyone but yourself bullshit. FYI I and most other Leftists by an large did show up to vote for the lesser evil because unlike libs, we are willing to do harm reduction in the sort term, while still possessing the ability to look down the road and see whats coming. You guys want to take the one or two people online who didn’t vote and use them to blame the entire left for your failure to get a candidate that could actually win against literal Nazis on the ballot.
So pat yourself on the back for ‘doing your part’ by voting for a pro slavery cop instead of Hitler 2, it sure really saved all us Lefties who were waiting for our blue saviors to help us. Oh wait, it didn’t do shit.
You want people to start fucking shooting, so pull a fucking trigger buddy. Go to town, go get fucking kinetic.
You won’t though, because like all you hardcore leftists on here, you are all ‘academic’ and zero action.
This is precisely why the democrats don’t court you guys. You could get 80% of what you want for a candidate, and stay home because of the 20% that isn’t rainbows and unicorns.
This is an online forum. It’s words. Your idea that the people you’re talking to are all talk is unfalsifiable. If anyone did post on here about pulling a trigger you could attack them for being all talk for exactly that same reason.
On this forum, you are also all talk. There is literally nothing else you can do on here.
But go off, everybody around you is all talk, all the time. That certainly isn’t a feature of the place you chose to express your vapid rants.
People who are organising on the ground are under no obligation to keep you in the loop by posting about it publicly, especially given you clearly aren’t interested in helping anyway.
My guess is your accusations are all a projection of your own feelings of powerlessness. I mean there’s not going to be another election for about 4 more years, and your only method of change is useless until then.
Name one non-violent protest that changed the material conditions of those protesting, I’ll wait.
The 1989 East German monday demonstrations.
The Velvet Revolution.
Pick up a rifle and do something then.
You guys who want violence are chomping at the bit for someone else to fucking do something and yet you do nothing.
The ‘far left’ in this country are a bunch of fucking pussies who do nothing but complain on the internet.
Are you seriously unable to differentiate between someone saying that we shouldn’t be so quick to take violence off the table, and “I have a plan and the means to immediately begin using violence this second?”
Violence and Non Violence are tools, you don’t throw out your screwdriver when you get a hammer and you don’t try hammering in a screw without trying the screwdriver first.
You can prefer to resolve things peacefully while recognizing that it likely won’t work at the same time.
If someone says 'I think all people should have healthcare" do you respond with 'Go become a Doctor then!"
The far left are pussies for not taking action, and the Liberals are far worse because they are half the reason we are in this mess. Y’all want to prop up Capitalism and Corporations, this is what you get. It doesn’t matter if you asked the ruling class to play nice with the power you handed them or not, it’s not our fault you are so naive.
Oh it’s my personal fault huh? Man, you guys just like blaming everyone but the left don’t you?
You’d rather burn the country down and have people fight the fight you want, and you expect people to believe you will go put rounds down range on these people when you wouldn’t even walk to the voters booth and vote against literal nazis.
What an amazing fucking hypocrite you are. It’s not surprising, it’s what liberals are good at.
You are so quick to blame the Left for your Performative Pig not winning the election, but take no responsibility whatsoever for putting that piece of shit on the ballot in the first place. Before that it was a senile old man you were convinced was going to save us. You guys are the ones blaming everyone but yourselves.
It’s you that keep on spouting the lie that Leftists are just sitting around waiting on a bunch of fucking Libs to fight for us. Literally no one has said that but you. That makes perfect sense, seeing as how the Libs haven’t done jack shit other than put ‘Vote Blue No Matter Who’ bumper stickers on their cars and going into a booth once every 4 years so they can get the coveted “I voted” badge of honor.
It makes even more sense considering the libs done everything in their power to ensure that it’s only the cops and military that actually have effective weapons to fight with. All you can do is capitulate, lick boots, and act as if inanimate objects are the problem and not the capitalist pigs you keep voting for, so of course we are just sitting around expecting you cowards to actually fight when the time comes. /s because I’m sure you need it spelled out for you.
If and when peacefully protesting inevitably fails and it comes time to defend ourselves, you can bet your ass it will be Leftists doing the fighting while the Blue losers are writing strongly worded letters to their senators and cowering in their basements.
And again with the blaming everyone but yourself bullshit. FYI I and most other Leftists by an large did show up to vote for the lesser evil because unlike libs, we are willing to do harm reduction in the sort term, while still possessing the ability to look down the road and see whats coming. You guys want to take the one or two people online who didn’t vote and use them to blame the entire left for your failure to get a candidate that could actually win against literal Nazis on the ballot.
So pat yourself on the back for ‘doing your part’ by voting for a pro slavery cop instead of Hitler 2, it sure really saved all us Lefties who were waiting for our blue saviors to help us. Oh wait, it didn’t do shit.
K.
Can’t answer my question. I’m not surprised.
Liberals never live in reality that is why they allow fascism to happen.
Looks like you are the one being violent with your rhetoric.
Sure thing dude. Whatever you say.
Typical answer that I expected from a liberal like you. You people give up so easily. Is there any fight among liberals at all?
Good luck with your pacifism when they are killing wholesale. Do you like humanity? Maybe defend it against evil once and a while.
I don’t see you pulling triggers, keyboard commando.
What a ridiculous statement.
Naw it’s perfectly rational, cowboy.
You want people to start fucking shooting, so pull a fucking trigger buddy. Go to town, go get fucking kinetic.
You won’t though, because like all you hardcore leftists on here, you are all ‘academic’ and zero action.
This is precisely why the democrats don’t court you guys. You could get 80% of what you want for a candidate, and stay home because of the 20% that isn’t rainbows and unicorns.
This is an online forum. It’s words. Your idea that the people you’re talking to are all talk is unfalsifiable. If anyone did post on here about pulling a trigger you could attack them for being all talk for exactly that same reason.
On this forum, you are also all talk. There is literally nothing else you can do on here.
But go off, everybody around you is all talk, all the time. That certainly isn’t a feature of the place you chose to express your vapid rants.
People who are organising on the ground are under no obligation to keep you in the loop by posting about it publicly, especially given you clearly aren’t interested in helping anyway.
My guess is your accusations are all a projection of your own feelings of powerlessness. I mean there’s not going to be another election for about 4 more years, and your only method of change is useless until then.
Gee, I wonder if that’s by design?
Vote harder! Interpretative dance and ask nicely.
That’s how real change happens.
And look at this fed (and my answer):
https://lemmy.world/post/31384291/17679569
Could it be they are scared of actual change and started a social media campaign?
Coincidentally also the same message from Bernie the sheepdog.
https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1932148252800905415