• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    11 hours ago

    You guys think that merely walking around in your own time holding up a board and shouting a bit, all focused on the mango puppet instead of the puppet masters, is going to change anything given that there is no single Historical event in the US ever of the lower classes rebelling against and deposit the upper classes (even the Revolution was literally the American plebs led by the American upper class fighting against the English plebs controlled by the English upper class)?!

    The murder of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare had more impact, if only temporary because it wasn’t followed by more similar murders.

    Even millions of people marching and shouting a bit (and so polite that they do it in their own time) will cause no fear for the elites because that’s in no way a warning that the heads of the elites will soon start getting separated from their shoulders if nothing changes.

    You need at the very least a General Strike and/or targetting the economic and propaganda interests of the elites (trashing the TV studios of certain channels or certain newspapers would send a powerful message).

    I mean, just notice the impact on police violence of the greatest demonstrations in the US - the George Floyd protests: nothing or even worse than nothing as the pigs have never been this violent.

    • Vreyan31@reddthat.com
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      2 hours ago

      Getting average people to the point that they are ready to do something like a general strike is a process.

      Most people don’t even want to have to go to a protest.

      But going to a protests is like anteing up in poker – it is mentally anchoring people as in the game and publicly taking a side.

      And yeah - the fucks in power are going to say “bet”.

      So now millions of people who are not where we already are, who have not wrestles with this and avoided it as long as they can - they are starting to ask, “ok, what do we actually have to risk to change this? What am I willing to do?”

      Will we get enough people actually engaged enough for a general strike? I have no idea.

      But I know it won’t happen without giving people a ramp-up that includes things like the protest this weekend.

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      5 hours ago

      Come over and lead the revolution then, if you think you’ve got what it takes. Otherwise, you’re also doing nothing of note.

      • newfie@lemmy.ml
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        3 hours ago

        These protests, while better than nothing, will not produce real change.

        Just as the George Floyd protests did not produce real change (Pelosi kneeling and raising a fist is not “real change”)

        UnitedHealth reduced claim denials following the murder. So at least that is some tangible positive result