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Hey guys, there is a lot of troll baiting in this thread. You’ve been doing a great job of not falling for it, so I’m not going to lock it. Newbies to this thread, check the times of when it was made and if it brings up the distant past a lot, those are good clues. Leave one comment at most to save everyone’s sanity.
It worked so well the first two times. Why not try again?
This will totally work.
And yes, I know its bait.
If we have to rely on the house or senate to impeach him, that’s not going to happen.
Not sure who still isn’t getting this.
There is a literal American traitor in the Oval Office. One who has flagrantly violated the law, and specifically the Constitution, numerous times.
Impeachment is meaningless, as we’ve witnessed multiple times in American history. Impeachment is an acceptable process if the violation is minimal and not repeated. It’s a slap on the wrist. A warning.
We are WAY beyond a symbolic slap on the wrist with no real repercussions. Impeachment is not a valid tool to use in a situation like this. At minimum, we are at the point where there needs to be massive protests like we just saw, repeatedly, until he is removed from office. If that fails, then there needs to be a general strike until he’s removed. If that fails, then he needs to be removed from office by force.
If we can’t manage these things, we will continue seeing the degradation of our freedoms, the collapse of our economy, the destruction of our founding document, signaling the end of our democracy, and the hole we’ll end up finding ourselves in will be one we won’t see this country come out of for the remainder of our lives.
It is time to remove this traitor and his treasonous enablers from their positions of power.
Twice!
We’ve had first impeachment, yes. But what about second impeachment?
We also had that! What about third impeachment?
They had a better chance of impeaching him for Jan 6th for actual insurrection than they do this time. Why? Because there are so many legal loop holes with the War Time Powers Act and the 2001 Authorization of The Use of Military Force. These loopholes were used by both Bush Jr. and Obama for various justifications for air strikes so the precedent is already there. Don’t get your hopes up and chalk up it up political theater. It’s also a distraction from what’s going on. Thanks again to Twatter being that megaphone of “HEY LOOK OVER HERE!”
We haven’t declared war since WW2. Everything has been AUMF, which can be done within 60 days retroactively. As always, the government is checks and balances, so if Congress refuses to exercise its powers and let the executive do whatever, it’s a moot point.
I think it’d only lead to impeachment if Congress wants us gone within 60 days and Trump refuses, continues without an AUMF, and then Congress actually had the balls to push back at that point.
But if someone is more familiar with the legal processes involved here, please do correct me or add to this.
Donny will never get out of this one!!!
If that dude knew how to fucking aim
Oh, you mean like how he was impeached in his first term in office and nothing changed?
Both impeachments were acquitted by the Senate after the House passed them.
Point taken, but I don’t see it going any differently this time around.
Nope. Its theater.
Sorry, you can only be impeached for getting a beej (although that was creepy af from an intern) or wearing a tan suit.
Starting wars just won’t do it.
Unfortunately, I don’t know if anyone would be willing to give Trump a BJ, and if they did, they certainly wouldn’t admit it in court.
Oop, that’s another impeachable offense in the pile.
100 impeachable offenses you must try before you die
Yep just add it to the list
I see two outcomes:
- Congress introduces articles
- Impeached, but fails ratification in senate
or
- Congress introduces articles
- Some terrible tragedy befalls us or Israel
- Articles fail and congress backs the war full-throated
There is no version of this that ends in removal, and even impeachment wouldn’t be anything more than performative outrage.
The majority of sitting representatives have been waiting for an acceptable excuse to bomb Iran for decades. The only objection any of them have is doing so without manufacturing consent from voters first, but we’ve already seen how this plays out with Afghanistan. They’ll drum up dubious evidence of WMD’s and launch their entry, and then spend 20 years trying to ‘get out’ while securing Iran’s material resources on the way.
The only difference this time is that Iran has almost 5x the population and 100x the GDP of Afghanistan in 2001, plus an actual organized military base with proper advanced weapons manufacturing. There’s a reason we’ve waited this long to actually do this, and it isn’t because we were busy doing other things. It’s because this isn’t a war we can win without pulling everyone else into it (or at the very least without isolating them from global trading partners).
It’s not a morbid joke to call this a WWIII softlaunch.
