• Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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    I get it but maybe this one we just give him the W. “Yes sir! You blew it up real good sir! No need to blow up anything else! Everyone is very impressed sir!”

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    it was pretty obvious it was botched by the following night. they bombed fordow, then claimed it was “obliterated”, then continued bombing it the following night.

    If it was “obliterated” then why waste those expensive bunker busters on another raid?

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    I feel like beyond the stupidity. Beyond the corruption. Beyond the narcissism and the self-aggrandising, the lying and the greed; it’s never really talked about enough about how he’s just a flat-out asshole he is.

    Even if he were just some dude driving a pickup truck to a 9-5 job, his entire demeanour is just one of a mean-spirited shit-heel who would get his teeth kicked in at any bar in any “regular joe” town in the world.

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      Apparently, that’s one of the things his voters like about him, because they’re also arseholes.

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      Yeah he’s an utter garbage monster. I feel like he’d work at a seedy used car dealership and beat up his wife nightly in frustration for being such a loser had he not been born into obscene wealth.

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      Before any question from a CNN reporter he preambles about how shitty he thinks they are, literally “wait til you get a load of what she’s about to ask here”. The patience of the journalist to ignore that and deliver a perfectly reasonable and impartial question is incredible.

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    Giddily talked about Ukraine’s “failed” attack on Russia’s bomber fleet (thousands of kilometers behind lines, damaged a significant amount of their fleet), gets butt hurt after his “cease fire negotiations” are ignored and his unprovoked (and probably leaked early) bombing is exposed as ineffective

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    Do we think maybe the bomber missed on purpose? Kind of like how there was a lack of precision by the military parade recently?

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    Hot take, it wasn’t set back at all.

    Uranium enrichment is expensive and time consuming, but if North Korea can do it covertly Iran has a much more educated people and much more land to extract anything from. Plus Iran is probably much more cozy with Russia than Russia is with Nork.

    If Iran hasn’t produced a weapon yet, it’s not because of these enrichment facilities, but a lack of material to produce enough high enrichment, OR they are trying to rely on methods for inducing fission that won’t work for a bomb (inclusive OR). That’s what kept Germany from advancing their program.

    I have a feeling that the centrifuges are decoys anyway. It’s a cheaper way to isolate enriched uranium, but easy targets. At one point Iran was trying laser separation to isolate the correct isotopes, but I doubt they had any success with that and they’re undoubtedly putting resources into multiple methods now, UNLESS Putin has instructed them otherwise.

    In reality? All Putin needs to do is provide enriched uranium or plutonium and Iran can make breeder reactors and it doesn’t matter how many centrifuges get blown to bits.

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      This isn’t the first time Iran’s nuclear program has been targeted. It’s been regularly attacked over the years. Getting weapons grade enrichment is really hard, it’s years of lead time to get centrifuges up and running before you can even attempt enrichment. It’s not unbelievable that they haven’t gotten pure enough uranium for a nuke yet, it matches up with what we know about their program from what has been inspected.

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      Iran doesn’t actually have to have uranium for America to bomb them. In fact, if they didn’t have uranimum, we’d be liberating them for the sake of Democracy or some shit. Israel told its wage slaves to bomb Iran, so its wage slaves are going to bomb Iran.

      Remember last time?

      “Oh, turns out… they didn’t have weapons of mass destruction lmao. SILLY US! Oh well! Too late now!”

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      but if North Korea can do it covertly Iran has a much more educated people and much more land to extract anything from

      Iran is under a microscope though, and has severe problems with infiltration from outside intelligence agencies.

      They do have more than 10x the land area and more than 3x the population though.

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    I don’t want to accuse Trump or his administration of having rational or intelligent decision-making processes, but it’s hard to really have any productive thought or conversation about theit decisions if I just assume they are irrational or stupid. So bear with me as I try to make sense of something that might be senseless.

    There have been a handful of odd discrepancies from the Trump administration piling up. Mueller, for all his flaws, did prove that a good chunk of Trump’s campaign in 2016 had illegal ties to Russia and Putin. Even though Trump avoided direct consequences and pardoned some of them, they were still convicted and the ties to Putin are solid. Heck, there were ties between Trump and Russia going back to the 80’s.

    Musk also has ties to Russia and Putin. So it was not all that surprising to see Musk throw his full support behind Trump last summer and then do the whole DOGE thing. It was a bit odd to see someone so thoroughly tied to electric cars support someone so pro-fossil fuels, but I could see Musk deciding that defense contracts for SpaceX, Starlink, and other businesses might outweigh reduced EV subsidies for him.

    Allegedly, Trump and Musk had a falling out. The back-and-forth on social media, Musk stepping back from DOGE, and later walking back some of his statements. Speculation as to whether that was real or not. Was it really over the spending bill? Was Musk really leaving DOGE? Was this all a ploy to manipulate the stock market and do some insider trading? Was this just Musk on drug-induced psychosis?

    Then the tensions between Israel and Iran flare up again. Trump sides with Israel as the US traditionally has, Putin sides with Iran as Russia traditionally has. There was the recent Tucker Carlson interview of Ted Cruz, and we’ve seen some discord among the far-right over whether to support a US war against Iran or not. The US struck Iran and didn’t appear to do a whole lot of damage, and Iran struck back in the most polite way possible and did pretty much no damage.

    Other wonderful folks have dug up old Trump tweets from the Obama years, speculating that Obama was appearing weak and would strike Iran as a show of strength.

    So was this all just political theater? Trump doesn’t actually care whether Iran has nukes or not. He wants Trump to appear strong and willing to go to war. He wants to show his support for Israel and reaffirm America as the World Police.

    So my guess is that Netanyahu keeps pushing what he can get away with. Allegedly, there was tension between Netenyahu and Biden over the line between counter-terrorist operations and genocide. Biden, the consummate centrist neoliberal, allowed the genocide as long as it didn’t hurt businesses, but seemed to have been pressuring Netenyahu to keep restrictions on it. Trump abandoned those and Palestine seems to be suffering far more since he took office. Then you add the Israeli strikes on Iran on top of that- I don’t think they had anything to do with new intelligence Israel received, just that Netenyahu felt he could get away with it while still maintaining US support from Trump, which he could not have done under Biden.

    Where I start to really speculate- I don’t think Trump cares about Iran. He doesn’t care about of they have nukes or not, he doesn’t care about Islam vs Judaism vs Christianity. He care about the media narratives, especially in the US. Same thing with the tarrifs- it was more about appearing powerful to his base than actually being powerful.

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      He wants to show his support for Israel and reaffirm America as the World Police.

      FUCK YEAH! COMIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERFUCKIN DAY!!

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      I think you’re looking at this the correct way - these people are totally impulsive and incompetent, but they’re not acting randomly

      I think Trump genuinely wants to be peacemaker, he was advancing talks and holding back the MIC (who have wanted was with Iran for decades)

      So he goes to camp David, and in a matter of hours “Iran can’t have a nuke, they’re close, they can’t have it”

      I don’t know what they told him, but I think Trump’s plan was to do a big bombing run, declare success, and force Israel to back off before working towards a peace deal

      And yes, Trump just tweeted out a cease fire and expected it to work, but the US does have that much power over Israel’s ability to wage war… He told Netanyahu to cut it the fuck out, and we’ll see

      The MIC wants this to go forward, they love supplying arms to Israel, but theoretically Trump could cut off arms shipments to them

      But to be clear, this is not about the nuclear program itself one way or the other… It doesn’t matter if the sites were destroyed or moved beforehand. Peace talks were ongoing, Iran wants back into the fold

      What matters is if a peace deal can be reached, and I think Trump genuinely wants it. The money behind both Israel and the US definitely want war

      We’ll see who’s in control

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        Drumph bombed Iran because when he announced that his decision whether or not to bomb was coming in “2 weeks”, the 10th time since his inauguration that he has used this line (it’s usually Drumphs code to not do anything at all), he was laughed at by the world for being “Too weak” TACO Donnie. He was laughed at by the world, humiliated and so he bombed Iran because his fee fees were all hurt… Donnie does every little thing based on “feelings”, and to describe his actions as strategic is just sane washing the cunt.

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          Who said it was strategic? He went to camp David and totally flipped his position

          Someone sat him down, and drilled this plan into him. Then he lost his shit when it didn’t go like they promised

          What he wants hasn’t changed, but it seems like they convinced him a quick bombing campaign and a “mission accomplished” banner could stop this war

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        I think Trump genuinely wants to be peacemaker

        Trump’s never given a flying fuck about anything other than Trump, and never will.

        He is enough of a narcissistic idiot to believe he could achieve peace in the middle east by bombing Iran, though, not because he cares about peace but because he genuinely believed it would get him the Nobel peace price, which he needs because Obama of all people got one, and extremely narcissistic Trump’s never gotten over Obama making fun of him at the 2011 White House Correspondents’ dinner.

        When both Israel and Iran immediately violated his unilateral ceasefire (to the surprise of no one but Trump) he saw his prospects for said Nobel price, which he already considered in his pocket, evaporate, which explains his tantrum.

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          I think it’s more than just the peace prize

          Think of how long making peace in the middle east has been this near impossible goal. It’s even a trope in media to display super intelligence

          He wanted his wall, not because he gave a shit, but he wanted a landmark. He wants the model Nobel peace prize, but he really wants to be remembered as this mythical deal maker, the peace president

          And honestly? Aside from Gaza, for a little while it seemed like he was about to do it, through the power of open bribery and having a melty soup brain

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    I mean, totally works even with a Star Wars context. If our evil fascist dictator wasn’t calling people who spoke the truth scum, he wouldn’t be much of an evil fascist dictator now would he?

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    So obnoxious to see Americans conclude “The bombings were done incorrectly” after this horrifying bullshit.

    Fucker is out there committing naked, wildly unconstitutional straight-up war crimes for clout. And the liberal response is just to pooh-pooh him for failing to demolish a civilian nuclear program.

    “If Kamala Harris was in charge, she’d have leveled those mountain-encased centrifuges!” will be the 2026 DNC rallying cry.

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      To say Iran is only running a civilian nuclear problem is retarded and you should be ashamed of yourself