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The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.
They’re calling these people terrorists for holding signs calling for the end of Israel’s genocide. They’re not calling the people who have been committing genocide every day terrorists: they’re valuable allies. This is the UK Government’s morality. I hope it’s not shared by the British people.
Technically it’s because some members of the group trespassed in a military base and vandalised an airplane. Which is trespassing and vandalism. Not terrorism. Unless Starmer has been watching too much Thomas & the Friends and Pixar’s Cars and believes that the poor planes can’t sleep at night anymore, because they are terrified.
“We’re civilised people, we can excuse genocide, but throwing paint and saying mean words is a step too far.”
Also, even if a few members organize themselves to do that, that doesn’t mean the entire organization supports it or is behind it.
Some definitions of Terrorism also include property damage
Well definitions can include anything and everything. They can also be debased to the point of being useless, or in the case of crimes of being the engine of witch hunts.
I do not believe inanimate objects can experience terror, so I also don’t agree with the definition. But I don’t write the laws.
Oooh, waaah, muh paint!
Big deal. The UK has billions of pounds from selling arms to the Apartheid Zionist state
On the outside of the engine I agree.
On the inside there are moving parts that probably don’t like increased friction, so they probably have to take the whole thing apart to remove the paint.
It’s still not really destruction of property.
Big deal. The UK has billions of pounds from selling arms to the genocidal apartheid zionist state.
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Polling consistently shows disapproval for Israeli actions in Gaza.
It is not
What if it is an excuse to put people that openly oppose colonialism and authority under control and fear? They maybe don’t care that much for Israel but why miss this opportunity?
No they’re not. There’s a difference between “Palestine Action” (the group) and “actions and other stuff in favour of Palestine”. The former has been banned, the latter has not. Protesting is legal in the UK; vandalising Air Force equipment is not.
Damaging equipment that is being used to conduct genocide is not vandalism, it’s human fucking decency.
True, but I wasn’t aware that the RAF are currently flying sorties into any ongoing genocide.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqg440v0gxo
They are not doing the bombing in Gaza. They are protecting the ones doing the bombing in Gaza.
You might want to re-read that article. It doesn’t mention Gaza once. Here are some quotes:
“fighting between Israel and Iran”
“protect UK personnel and bases in the Middle East”
“we’ve never been involved in attacking with Israel”
“we’ve got assets out there they need to be protected given Iran has suggested they might be under threat”
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Oh I’m sorry, I thought the recent moves deepening the existing framework was proof enough. You want to go back instead.
Let’s try this one: https://aje.io/78f3r5
how dare you bring logic to a circlejerk
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Yes, that is vandalism by definition.
“Vandalism is the action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property.[1] The term includes property damage, such as graffiti and defacement directed towards any property without permission of the owner.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandalism
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That’s sounds like vandalism, which confirms what the other guy said.
And there’s no need for insults.
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That’s the definition of vandalism. Feel free to open a dictionary and educate yourself.
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What has point of sale to do with genocide?
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Please tell me where you park your car and your number plate. I will then throw red paint on it. If a bit of paint can damage your car, why did you spend 40.000€ on it?
Just listen to yourself - of course throwing paint into an aircraft engine will damage a plane. This is exactly why this group did it. And there is nothing to prevent this - throwing paint will destroy every engine and esp. jet engines. If you do not believe me, throw a bucket of paint into your car engine. You can support Palestine, but please use your brain and try to think about some things before posting. You can do better than this.
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