The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.
Why is the UK against people backing Mandatory Palestine?
Arresting prominent protest figures has always ended well for the UK. /s
If she were in the US, she would be pushed to the ground and beaten by a bunch of white guys in riot gear and masks.
As someone stated… The police are not your friend. They are not there to serve and protect your interests. They are there to serve and protect the interests of the state you live in.
The other day my wife’s car stopped at a busy road. The police quickly arrived and asked if she had crashed on to my car. Like how can we take this unfortunate event and turn it into a profitable situation where they can impound the car…oh it’s just engine failure, well you’re blocking the road so I’ll call the most expensive possible tow truck. How can we make your day worse?
“Are we the baddies?”
-Said exactly 0 of the cops
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Maybe change Germany to the country the post is related to after copy and pasting this, it’s not they’re the only one.
I support Palestine Action - illegal
I support Action for Palestine - legal
I support P.A.
gets arrested
I said I support Pennsylvania, the US State!
Feckless cowards.
Genocide accomplices!
Everyone involved with this “law” should be tried and hung in the Hague for aiding and abetting crimes against humanity.
Let’s not hang people in The Hague now
Now I understand more closely Starmer’s subservience to America’s Donald Trump.
The Thought Police are now in your timeline
Well that was quick.
Just wondering, if I would hold up a sign with ‘go isreal, continue the amazing work you do!’, would that get me arrested? Surely i’d get beat up but i mean what would the lawmakers think of that? Would it be different if the sign would say ‘go isreal, murder those innocent families’ or ‘go isreal, your genocide rules!’ (am i allowed to call it a genocide if i’m not against it?)
in some countries even holding empty sign would lead you to arrest
None of those signs would lead to your arrest in the UK.
make is sarcastic, the British way.
go on the telly, then show them a mirror to themselves. talk how excited you are for how many humanitarian volunteers are being slaughtered, how clever is it to stave children so they can take their land…
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Or you you could just, you know… protest against Israel and pro Palestinians without explicitly showing your allegiance to terrorist organizations such as Hamas.
There is only one context in which Palestine Action is “a terrorist organization such as Hamas” and that’s the depraved legislation that the idiots in Westminster passed. The bravery of the 83 year old priest this article is about lays bare the depravity and stupidity of this absolutely idiotic legislation. Your comment on the other hand, by using this idiotic comparison buys into this aberrant degeneracy. Why do you do that?
Why are you talking about Hamas in a thread about Palestine Action? The two groups are not related at all and use totally different tactics (Palestine Action is explicitly non-violent).
How did this get 5 upvotes lol
I think more people have alts on lemmy than we’d like to admit. Particularly when they’re accounts spewing hasbara propaganda.
Unidan is taking AIPAC money.
without explicitly showing your allegiance
So you assume by default that there’s either an explicit or implicit support for Hamas by protesting against Israel?
without explicitly showing your allegiance
So you assume that there’s either an explicit or implicit support for Hamas by protesting against Israel?
Sorry for using difficult words. Make simple for you now:
- protest against Israel: Ok
- protest for Palestinians: Good
- support Hamas: very bad
Understood or brain still hurt?
Where did they show support for Hamas?
terrorist organizations such as Hamas
Can you get more bad faith?
Just stop using Palestinians as as guise for your love of terrorism.
Yeah, they’re the ones arguing in bad faith 🙄
“Stop arguing in bad faith” *proceeds to immediately make the most bad faith argument I have seen in this thread*
trying to stop delivering arms to a terrorist group commiting genocide: terrorism
commiting genocide and deliberately killing, maiming, starving and playing cruel games with the lives of civilians and literal children: not terrorism
talk about bad faith… fuck off with all that.
Thanks for providing a textbook example of bad faith arguing.
My point was that you can protest for the cause of Palestinians without showing allegiance to terrorist organizations.
You are not only claiming that you must support organizations that are defined as terrorist, you pretend I was the one defining their status.
Well done. (slow clap)
OK but where is the explicit support for Hamas that this woman was allegedly demonstrating. “Hamas” doesn’t appear in the article.
How explain word “like” simple? Difficult but I try - for you.
- Orange like grapefruit - both fruit
- Toyota like Ford - both car
- Hamas like “Palestine Action” - both terrorist
If still difficult:
- grapefruit more sour than orange - still both fruit
- Toyota better than Ford - both still car
- Hamas way way worse than “Palestine Action” - still both terrorist
ICE is a terrorist organization. MAGA is a terrorist organization. You must be really against both of those things, eh? They use fear tactics and scaremongering, and when that doesn’t work, they get violent real quick. And they are based on both political and religious ideology to boot!
What the fuck even is this comment, lol
Oh, I see, you think that just because the UK labeled Palestine Action a terrorist group, they actually are?
…
Hey, come on over, I got a bridge to sell you!
the IOF is a terrorist organization. much bigger, more prolific and active than Hamas as well. literally a war criminal organization. funny how you never hear people getting arrested for supporting the IOF though.
Are there any pro “IOF” demonstrations anywhere?
Holding up a sign in support of a terrorist organization will (hopefully) get you arrested.
You might argue that “Palestine Action” should not be defined as a terrorist organization.
You can hold up a sign supporting them to protest the designation. You will be arrested however. That’s just what happens.
Personally I’m not so sure that Palestinians will benefit from all that.
But how would I telegraph my desire to murder the Jews if I did that?
To simply imagine Palestine without settlers, to simply imagine a sky without drones—that, in the Zionist imagination, is genocidal. If you stick with the “want” of the charge, the notion that Palestinians want to kill all Jews, you find that Zionism is at war with our future. It is at war with our ability to articulate, even if only through poems and protest chants, a future in which Zionism does not reign. For in the past 100 years, Zionism has situated us in a condition of constant dispossession and premature death; our Nakba remains and renews. We are besieged in an inescapable, eternal present tense.
Mohammed El-Kurd
What really happened here: Members of this Palestine Action group sneaked onto a military base and attacked the aircrafts there. This act of politically motivated vandalism resulted in this group being officially banned by the government. Which is totally ok, no state in the world will and can tolerate some group doing acts of terrorism and/or doing sabotage.
Supporting banned terrorist organizations is of course also not allowed (which really makes sense) and yeah, this priest totally did that on purpose. You are therefore totally fine holding up a sign supporting Israel and you are also totally fine holding up a sign supporting Palestine, but you are not fine holding up signs supporting banned organizations.
You’re equating vandalism to terrorism, you might want to look up the meaning of those words.
The British House of Commons voted by 385 votes to 26 to add Palestine Action to the list of terrorist groups proscribed under the Terrorism Act. Maybe you want to tell us why your definition of terrorism is different from the one in the British parliament?
Because they are unfairly biased in favor of Israel. The U.S. has shown its bias by denying the war crimes that every serious scholar has agreed is happening. The state of Israel itself has tried to shoehorn “criticism of the state of Israel” into the definition of antisemitism.
Governments will stretch and distort definitions to suit their purposes.
Because i’m not a hypocrite, unlike the british parliament.
That vote just shows us the British House of Commons is full of racists. Nothing new there.
Nah, Labeling them as “terrorists” is disproportionate.
Criminals, yes. Terrorists, no.
The definition of terrorism under british law can apply to basically any protest group and if applied retroactively would drag things like the suffragette movement under the umbrella of terrorism.
This move is an assault on all of our freedom of speech
Attacked aircraft? By smacking the landing gear with her walker?
Please inform yourself: People of the Palestine Action group have sneaked upon a british military airfield and sprayed paint into the jet engines of several RAF planes.
So? Did the paint damage the planes? The RAF should give them an award for exposing the vulnerabilities in its security measures.
Yes, putting paint into a jet engine damages a jet engine.
Bootlicker
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What really happened is already in the article, my questions are about how lawmakers would respond if you openly support the same side they are supporting. That is especially relevant as r i don’t expect regular folk to let me walk around showing the same kind of support for genocide. This has nothing to do with the Palestine Action group and what they did or didn’t do.
Thanks for providing proper context.
Before they decided to break into a British military base and sabotage planes their status might have been debatable.
MPs had voted overwhelmingly on Wednesday to proscribe the direct action group, alongside the neo-Nazi Maniacs Murder Cult and the Russian Imperial Movement.
Has anyone affiliated with the other two groups been arrested since this went into effect?
This is a good question, apparently they’d rather lock up 83 year old women than violent facists and warmongers
Were there people holding up signs for these in public places?
As a German I sincerely apologize for people like this guy here
danke schön, brudi
Honestly, you have way more stuff going that need to apologize for.
Maybe look up Palestine Action before commenting:
In June 2025, the Home Office announced that it intended to designate the group as a proscribed terrorist organisation after the group broke into RAF Brize Norton, vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT refuelling planes by spraying paint into their engines.
Source: Wikipedia
vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT refuelling planes by spraying paint into their engines.
Funny, I wasn’t aware vandalism is a synonym to terrorism.
vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT
MY WORD *clutches pearls*
They’re calling these people terrorists for holding signs calling for the end of Israel’s genocide. They’re not calling the people who have been committing genocide every day terrorists: they’re valuable allies. This is the UK Government’s morality. I hope it’s not shared by the British people.
What if it is an excuse to put people that openly oppose colonialism and authority under control and fear? They maybe don’t care that much for Israel but why miss this opportunity?
Technically it’s because some members of the group trespassed in a military base and vandalised an airplane. Which is trespassing and vandalism. Not terrorism. Unless Starmer has been watching too much Thomas & the Friends and Pixar’s Cars and believes that the poor planes can’t sleep at night anymore, because they are terrified.
Some definitions of Terrorism also include property damage
Well definitions can include anything and everything. They can also be debased to the point of being useless, or in the case of crimes of being the engine of witch hunts.
I do not believe inanimate objects can experience terror, so I also don’t agree with the definition. But I don’t write the laws.
Polling consistently shows disapproval for Israeli actions in Gaza.
It is not
No they’re not. There’s a difference between “Palestine Action” (the group) and “actions and other stuff in favour of Palestine”. The former has been banned, the latter has not. Protesting is legal in the UK; vandalising Air Force equipment is not.
Damaging equipment that is being used to conduct genocide is not vandalism, it’s human fucking decency.
True, but I wasn’t aware that the RAF are currently flying sorties into any ongoing genocide.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceqg440v0gxo
They are not doing the bombing in Gaza. They are protecting the ones doing the bombing in Gaza.
You might want to re-read that article. It doesn’t mention Gaza once. Here are some quotes:
“fighting between Israel and Iran”
“protect UK personnel and bases in the Middle East”
“we’ve never been involved in attacking with Israel”
“we’ve got assets out there they need to be protected given Iran has suggested they might be under threat”Oh I’m sorry, I thought the recent moves deepening the existing framework was proof enough. You want to go back instead.
Let’s try this one: https://aje.io/78f3r5
how dare you bring logic to a circlejerk
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That’s sounds like vandalism, which confirms what the other guy said.
And there’s no need for insults.
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That’s the definition of vandalism. Feel free to open a dictionary and educate yourself.
Please tell me where you park your car and your number plate. I will then throw red paint on it. If a bit of paint can damage your car, why did you spend 40.000€ on it?
Just listen to yourself - of course throwing paint into an aircraft engine will damage a plane. This is exactly why this group did it. And there is nothing to prevent this - throwing paint will destroy every engine and esp. jet engines. If you do not believe me, throw a bucket of paint into your car engine. You can support Palestine, but please use your brain and try to think about some things before posting. You can do better than this.
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Yes, that is vandalism by definition.
“Vandalism is the action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property.[1] The term includes property damage, such as graffiti and defacement directed towards any property without permission of the owner.”
Apparently they sabotaged the engines:
In June 2025, the Home Office announced that it intended to designate the group as a proscribed terrorist organisation after the group broke into RAF Brize Norton, vandalising and damaging two Royal Air Force Airbus A330 MRTT refuelling planes by spraying paint into their engines.
By committing that act they’ve successfully played themselves.
Does Israel have dirt on all these people? Its wild how everyone just supports genocide so willingly.
The entirety of the current Government owe their jobs to Israel, as the last leader of their party - Jeremy Corbyn - was kicked out opening the way for these ones to get power after a campaign of slanders of anti-semitism backed amongst others by Israeli-linked Jewish groups in the UK which was so extreme that at one point a Jewish Holocaust Survivor was said to be an anti-semite for what he said in a conference for Palestine in order to taint Jeremy Corbyn by association, as he was sitting in the same panel in that conference and “didn’t rise up to dispute it”.
Since Britain also has First Past The Post like the US, getting the leadership of that party was a guaranteed path to Government since that party was the next in line in the power cycle over there.
So these people were basically bought by Israel.
Every western government is scared of opposing Israel since WW2. It’s absurd.
What makes you think they are backing israel only because of blackmail? They are arresting a 83 year old for opposing a genocide, our governments are shit and always have been, can’t you see it?
The west strongest countries are neocolonial powers supporting a colonial power
the strongest countries, period.
China and Russia are colonial powers, too.
China and Russia are colonial powers, too.
Crazy how tankies think it’s only ok if you do it to your neighbours.
To be fair, China does it all over, especially in Africa. Russia probably would too if they could.
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I don’t know if you just don’t know how conversations work, but it follows pretty reasonably. It didn’t come from no where. First someone complained about “the west” doing colonialism. Then someone corrected that all major powers do it. Finally someone points out that tankies only complain about “the west” and never China or Russia who do the same things.
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Whining about china
So guess you’re paycheck doesn’t come from Russia then
is this the anti-tankie crowd warning us about WhaTaBouTiSm?
Politicians only care about being elected.
How exactly does supporting genocide get them elected? I don’t get the impression that Labour voters want to see Palestinians murdered.
Money
It’s been proven that most of the time, whoever spends the most wins.
The UK has spending limits which mitigates that. https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/party-spending-and-pre-poll-donations-and-loans-uk-parliamentary-general-election/spending-limit
Does this include quid-pro-quos like being invited to speak somewhere or providing lip service to a certain political party? Not all transactions can be measured in terms of monetary values. Think of ‘we don’t mind supplying you with state-of-the-art spyware, but we can’t do that if you make life hard on us and speak out against the genocide we’re committing’.
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The fact that labour is propping up and financially supporting this is awful, we are somewhat complicit in this genocide too. Didn’t fucking vote for this.
And their donors
The care about holding the power. They don’t give a shit about elections. It’s just that they need them to legitimize their regime.
