“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser
“I think it’s going to require a little bit less navel-gazing and a little less whining and being in fetal positions. And it’s going to require Democrats to just toughen up,” Obama said at the fundraiser
Unfortunately kinda yes. Ever had to make choices for a lot of people?? Usually the middle ground is where you’ll land.
Honestly I don’t agree at all. I think Obama’s greatest criticism is how he handled Russia/Georgia. But again that’s a tough call, you gonna drag America into a second theater of war when everyone is already mad about the first one and calling you a warmonger for literally no reason.
I just don’t think he’s made such awful decisions as you all are pushing.
for no reason? LOL Maybe the reason people call him a warmonger is that he continuously pushed for more war, expanded the military, and killed innocent people.
150,000 deployed to 20,000. Less casualties on both sides. In a war he didn’t start under a military industry that you’re witnessing the power of in Israel. People think it’s solely Israel holding everyone by the balls, learn about Krupp’s impact on WWI.
Roll my fuckin eyes.
Well, I’m sure the dead kids that he bombed will be happy to hear that he killed less of them than the previous administration. What a relief!
Who is claiming that’s okay though? And why are you acting like such a tool about it? You’re literally treating it like Obama himself targeted kids. 150,000 to 20,000, both sides experience less casualties. That’s a fantastic step up, Obama is correctly leading to a proper solution as best he can. Stop making human suffering a political bludgeoning instrument
The way you paint it, any war makes all combatants bad guys permanently and you’re too immature to spot people trying in a fucked situation… You can believe war is evil and bad and cruel but also be forced to engage in one.
Bush invaded and leveled a country to be unable to hold itself up. Obama chose to try and install support, that’s what neoliberalism does. As much as you wanna believe it, he literally can’t just sign a paper and magically make it all go away. He has to present a solution, criticize it and judge it all you want but calling him a warmonger and being so ignorant about the actual steps taken to reduce suffering is just stupid of you.
lol, you are. You are literally saying he’s not such a bad guy, because he killed less people.
I don’t disagree that wars are sometimes a necessary evil, but that wasn’t the case under Obama. He got into power, and continued on with Bush’s policy of unnecessary war. He could have stopped, but he chose to continue.
You can keep saying that he had no power all you want, but he did, and you saying “nu-uh” doesn’t change that fact.
I’m saying he deescalated a very awful military campaign that was branded “the war on terror” and was just one of many wars caused by intelligent agency bullshit when Obama was literally just of age to vote.
It’s not a question of necessary evil it’s a question of spinning plates. Stopping it too fast and it’ll fall to the floor and all those children you use as an argument piece so fucking cruelly and stupidly go with it.
He had power. The president especially under Obama with such a hostile Congress/infrastructure around him cannot just declare the end of a war. Congress funds and declares war. The best Obama could do was deescalate, take action to reduce casualties and attempt to set up some sort of government he can even TRY to broker peace with.
And so he does that pretty well I believe and your ass is being a dick about it. Criticize all you want but do so correctly.
Scroll through this entire thread and look at how many morons are using words like warmonger and acting like he’s the one killing kids. Then look at how fox news portrays Obama. You think they’re not somewhat related?
Trump abolished the ability to know how many children he even bombed and Bush caused more destruction and death than Obama.
I never said he could just immediately stop the wars. And Trump and Bush being warmongers does not mean that Obama wasn’t a warmonger. All three of them were warmongers.
If you can’t defend your position, thats fine, but stop making up stuff that I never said.
He could have done a lot, but chose to make jokes about the people he killed. That doesn’t sound like he tried very hard, especially when he continued torturing innocent people, and continued bombing kids.
I disagree Obama being a warmonger makes no sense. When Russia invaded Georgia and there was a push to go to war. Did we?