• Øπ3ŕ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    Hunh. I thought it was that there’s always the one that thinks he’s the main character, and everyone around him had to share the load. I mean, FFS, you know at least a handful of the others were aware that giant eagles’d carry them straight off, but who wants to tell the hero-who’d-rather-walk?

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      ugh, the eagles argument is so old and played out. there’s a million reasons why the eagles couldn’t have carried them in.

      for one thing, mordor had an airforce. the nazgul were stronger than or equal to the strength of the eagles. the only reason they could fly in at the end is because the ring was already destroyed and the nazgul fell with it.

      another is that the plan only worked because it was done in secret. if they had flown in, sauron would have seen them days or weeks before they arrived. he would have had that entire army waiting for them on mount doom. even if the eagles made it past the nazgul they never could have made it into the mountain.

      the eagles are intelligent willfull creatures. they also didn’t want to risk active war with mordor. just like this meme is pointing out, no one would have helped if they didn’t absolutely have to. that’s made much more clear in the books. every race and nation believes that either they are too far for the danger to reach them or that they can appease sauron. the eagles were not fully committed to war with mordor. they were kind of like Europe helping ukraine right now. they had a side, they supported that side, but only with the occasional assist never an actual battle.

      also, the ring’s corruption will basically slowly turn all who bear it for long enough into ring wraiths. that’s why frodo and bilbo had to take the boat to basically heaven at the end. they were immortal, but the magic that gave them that life was gone from the world. they would have withered away into husks over time, but not died. while the movies didn’t show it, Sam also suffered this fate in the end. he got to live his life with his family, but he too eventuality needed to make his exit in that manner. the only reason Hobbits could bear the ring is because they so free from want of power that it simply doesn’t sway their hearts the same way. if the eagles had carried the ring bearer for the length of journey that would have been required they too would have been corrupted. that was why they dissolved the fellowship. because the ring was starting to corrupt other party members despite only frodo carrying it.

      so no, the eagles couldn’t have just carried them.