he’s not as popular in real life as he is on the internet.
Not exactly true. In both 2016 and 2020, the number one reason voters gave for choosing Clinton or Biden over Sanders was electability. They preferred Sanders, but didn’t think he could win the general. He didn’t lose because he wasn’t popular, he lost because people thought he was unpopular.
On the other hand, I feel like I only ever see people arguing this on the Internet using examples of other people from the Internet. Every liberal person I know IRL loves Bernie, and many of them even say " But I understand that the party can’t run him because a lot of democratic voters think he’s too far to the left". Like, are these voters in the room with us right now?
There’s a serious flaw in using your personal connections to gauge an entire electorate. That said, those acknowledging him not being able to win are in the same boat with me. I’d love for him to be president.
I just think it’s funny that Bernie Bro “progressives” helped Trump come to power despite Bernie directly and publicly telling them to vote for Harris. All of a sudden they don’t care what he says. Bernie understands that any improvement is better than drastic regression. Wish I could say the same for about 10 million extremely stupid people.
You’re right, and I really appreciate you bringing up the statistical angle there. I am a bit of a stats nerd and indeed am aware of the multiple biases present in that sample of insufficient size. However, since the Internet is so full of bots and I don’t really trust the news on this, I don’t have much more to go on. It sucks, but polls seem like straight up misinformation at this point to me
Downvotes from the people who don’t know Bernie lost in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries because not enough people voted for him.
You are correct. As much as I like the guy, he is not as popular in reality as he is on the internet. But you can sure hurt a lot of feelings by pointing out that reality on the internet.
I hold nothing against Bernie. He does have real integrity.
The problem I have is the portion of his supporters that are essentially left-wing Trumpers. They don’t care about the truth. They don’t care about what’s best for the country. They make lies about electoral cheating.
The only difference is that Trump is a fucking scumbag and Bernie has integrity. I say that because each time he lost in the primaries, he publicly endorsed the Democratic candidate. Because he’s not a fucking moron and knew how destructive Trump presidencies would be. I find it interesting that THIS is the one issue Bernie Bros disagree on with Bernie. All of a sudden, he should NOT be listened to? He has also never claimed to have been cheated.
“Too liberal” for all the people who didn’t vote for him. Because he’s not as popular in real life as he is on the internet.
Not exactly true. In both 2016 and 2020, the number one reason voters gave for choosing Clinton or Biden over Sanders was electability. They preferred Sanders, but didn’t think he could win the general. He didn’t lose because he wasn’t popular, he lost because people thought he was unpopular.
I’m not sure what that exact figure would be but I suppose it’s true for some percentage.
On the other hand, I feel like I only ever see people arguing this on the Internet using examples of other people from the Internet. Every liberal person I know IRL loves Bernie, and many of them even say " But I understand that the party can’t run him because a lot of democratic voters think he’s too far to the left". Like, are these voters in the room with us right now?
There’s a serious flaw in using your personal connections to gauge an entire electorate. That said, those acknowledging him not being able to win are in the same boat with me. I’d love for him to be president.
I just think it’s funny that Bernie Bro “progressives” helped Trump come to power despite Bernie directly and publicly telling them to vote for Harris. All of a sudden they don’t care what he says. Bernie understands that any improvement is better than drastic regression. Wish I could say the same for about 10 million extremely stupid people.
You’re right, and I really appreciate you bringing up the statistical angle there. I am a bit of a stats nerd and indeed am aware of the multiple biases present in that sample of insufficient size. However, since the Internet is so full of bots and I don’t really trust the news on this, I don’t have much more to go on. It sucks, but polls seem like straight up misinformation at this point to me
Downvotes from the people who don’t know Bernie lost in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries because not enough people voted for him.
You are correct. As much as I like the guy, he is not as popular in reality as he is on the internet. But you can sure hurt a lot of feelings by pointing out that reality on the internet.
I hold nothing against Bernie. He does have real integrity.
The problem I have is the portion of his supporters that are essentially left-wing Trumpers. They don’t care about the truth. They don’t care about what’s best for the country. They make lies about electoral cheating.
The only difference is that Trump is a fucking scumbag and Bernie has integrity. I say that because each time he lost in the primaries, he publicly endorsed the Democratic candidate. Because he’s not a fucking moron and knew how destructive Trump presidencies would be. I find it interesting that THIS is the one issue Bernie Bros disagree on with Bernie. All of a sudden, he should NOT be listened to? He has also never claimed to have been cheated.