• Redfugee@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    She lost because Dems stayed home, low turnout in key Democratic areas. No matter how bad you think she was as a candidate you’re not going to convince me that she was worse than the dog shit candidate that won, and that’s on the people that stayed home.

    • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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      15 hours ago

      She was objectively worse. Trump represented his base. Kamala didn’t. Trump is objectively the better politician. He gave his base exactly what they wanted. She refused to, preferring to pander to wealthy conservatives instead. You can argue she had better policies, but you cannot argue that she wasn’t an absolute dogshit candidate. She was simply bad at being a politician and had no business being at the top of the ticket.

      You need to separate quality of policies from quality of candidate. You’ll never make any progress as long as you keep conflating the two.

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        13 hours ago

        She was objectively worse.

        Today I learned a prosecutor with a doctorate in law who has committed no crimes and ran a campaign primarily focused on unity and inclusion is objectively worse than a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist who illegally attempted to overturn an election after inciting an insurrection and ran a campaign based on hate and fear.

        She refused to, preferring to pander to wealthy conservatives instead.

        She refused to lie through her fucking teeth to her base or make enemies of our fellow Americans to win an election. And she gave a podium to a prominent conservative that spoke out against Trump. Maybe not a great move, but not some betrayal.

        She also ran with virtually no preparation out of necessity.

        We can keep blaming Harris or we can start blaming stupid fucking Americans that jeopardized our democracy because she wasn’t the best candidate ever. Like, what kind of broken fucking brain thinks “well, she’s not that great, so let me gamble with a felon rapist traitor instead”?

        • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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          12 hours ago

          Reading comprehension. You’re confusing policies for candidate quality. Trump was a good politician with shitty policies. Kamala was a dog shit politician with ok policies.

          It’s pointless to blame the electorate because they’re not going anywhere. Or are you more of a Zionist type, who would prefer just killing the electorate if they don’t vote your way?

      • Tinidril@midwest.social
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        13 hours ago

        She was in-arguably the worst candidate because she lost. She wouldn’t have been the worst president.

        The bullshit is centrists blaming it on the left. We told them how to win, and they went a different way. We showed up for her anyways, but the shitty candidate lost.