A Bronx office of the US House member Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was vandalized early on Monday, according to New York City police, who say they are investigating.

The vandalism occurred after Ocasio-Cortez on Friday voted against a defense spending bill amendment authored by the Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia that would have eliminated funding for the system protecting Israel from missiles.

Her vote on Greene’s amendment prompted the Democratic Socialists of America to issue a statement accusing Ocasio-Cortez of backing Israel’s “eliminationist campaign against the Palestinian people”.

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    AOC herself defended “”“defensive”“” weapns to Israel. She was against the amendment on those grounds.

    Her and other progressives vote for “doomed” bills and amendments all the time, as do most politicians. They vote for them to signal their position and push those positions publicly as much as anything else.

    Rashiba Tlaib voted for the amendment. AOC called her a nazi.

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        “we must give the German Reich the best defensive capabilities else civilians might die! Germany has a right to defend itself! Do you want more civilian casualties?!”

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          Note that I said I wouldn’t fund the iron dome. I don’t think Israel should receive any funding from the US. But apparently nuance isn’t in vogue right now.

          Keep stuffing that straw man.

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        Would you support funding an iron dome for Russia against Ukraine?

        The iron dome isn’t a defensive “weapon.” That’s a contradiction in terms.

        A gun doesn’t stop being a weapon because you used it in self defence, idiot.

        She specifically cited an interest in not having innocent people die.

        By funding arms to Israel to protect it from consequences of committing a genocide and invading and bombing multiple neighbours, which then allows it to act with further impunity to keep doing what it’s doing.

        She did not call Tlaib a Nazi. That’s a gross misrepresentation of the statement. Ask Tlaib if she thinks AOC was referring to her.

        She straight up declared anyone who voted for it effectively a nazi. She called Tlaib and Omar nazis.

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          Would you support funding an iron dome for Russia against Ukraine?

          I wouldn’t personally support funding anything in Russia or Israel.

          A gun doesn’t stop being a weapon because you used it in self defence, idiot.

          A gun is an offensive weapon. It’s not useful for self defense. You can’t shoot bullets out of the air easily. There’s no need for useless name-calling.

          By funding arms to Israel

          Except she voted against said funding by voting against the bill.

          to protect it from consequences of committing a genocide

          The iron dome existed before the current genocide. But you’re literally saying that civilians in Israel should die because the people in control of the government and military are committing genocide. That’s not justice. That’s advocating for murder as a form of revenge on a group when everyone in the group is not responsible for the preceding injustice. You’re applying the same logic as conservatives who pretend every Palestinian is a terrorist.

          and invading and bombing multiple neighbours, which then allows it to act with further impunity to keep doing what it’s doing.

          I’d be interested in defending Israel entirely. The conservatives in the majority in Congress will not allow that to happen. However AOC voted or even if she abstained, the results would not be any different.

          She straight up declared anyone who voted for it effectively a nazi. She called Tlaib and Omar nazis.

          She literally didn’t say that. If she did, you could quote her saying “Tlaib and Omar are Nazis.” You’re assigning that meaning to her words and then getting upset at your own interpretation.

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            I wouldn’t personally support funding anything in Russia or Israel.

            Yet here you are defending funding the iron dome. Weird that.

            A gun is an offensive weapon. It’s not useful for self defense. You can’t shoot bullets out of the air easily. There’s no need for useless name-calling.

            A missile is an offensive weapon. What do you think the iron dome is? Idiot.

            Except she voted against said funding by voting against the bill.

            Yet she defended funding the iron dome, which is giving arms to Israel.

            The iron dome existed before the current genocide.

            Irrelevant to the point.

            But you’re literally saying that civilians in Israel should die because the people in control of the government and military are committing genocide.

            Irrelevant to the point. You’re saying Russian civilians should die by saying you wouldn’t fund anything in Russia. You also said the same about Israel, so you also support killing Israeli civilians according to you.

            You’re saying German civilians should die because you refuse to provide Hitler with AA guns.

            I’d be interested in defending Israel entirely. The conservatives in the majority in Congress will not allow that to happen. However AOC voted or even if she abstained, the results would not be any different.

            ??? nonsensical.

            She literally didn’t say that. If she did, you could quote her saying “Tlaib and Omar are Nazis.” You’re assigning that meaning to her words and then getting upset at your own interpretation.

            “If you believe neo-nazis are welcome and operating in good faith, you can have them!” She said about people voting in favour of the amendment. She called Ilhan and Tlaib nazis.

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                I’m not. Russia can leave Ukraine and the war would be over.

                And Israel could leave Palestine (and Lebanon, and Syria, and stop attacking Iran). You’re just a rank hypocrite who supports arming genocide

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                Except I’m not. You literally quoted me saying I don’t support funding the iron dome.

                You are an absurdly obtuse and disingenuous person.

                Iron Dome funding is sending arms to Israel. Iron Dome protects Israel as it invades its neighbours and commits a genocide. It’s that simple.

                You are defending a vote against stripping iron dome funding, accusing others of being in favour of killing civilians whilst trying to claim you also don’t support funding Israel. You can’t have it both ways. You support killing of civilians with your own stupid fucking rhetoric, but you want to dance around the issue and pretend you aren’t doing what you are in fact doing.

                There actually was a lot of debate about civilian deaths in the firebombing of Dresden and the dropping of the atomic bombs in Japan. Your lack of historical context and nuance doesn’t help your broad brush arguments.

                You are genuinely a fucking moron. I said nothing about Dresden or dropping nukes. You are literally advocating for sending AA guns to Hitler by equating and reducing all forms of military response as being one and the same as mass murder of civilians to suggest it’s legitimate to support funding for the Iron Dome as “defensive”.

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                  Iron Dome protects Israel as it invades its neighbours and commits a genocide. It’s that simple.

                  No, it protects Israel regardless of whether Israel is committing genocide. But all of that is beside the point.

                  You are defending a vote against stripping iron dome funding,

                  I’m not defending the vote so much as pointing out that it was a meaningless vote. There’s nothing to defend or attack because the amendment is a non-issue. It was a meaningless political stunt by a racist conspiracy theorist.

                  accusing others of being in favour of killing civilians

                  Favour? As in British or Australian English? You’re not an American voter? This seems like a pointless discussion then.

                  whilst trying to claim you also don’t support funding Israel.

                  I don’t support funding for Israel. It’s an apartheid state and has committed genocidal war crimes.

                  You can’t have it both ways.

                  You can if you see the nuance and not just look at everything like it’s just so simple based on your first gut reaction.

                  You support killing of civilians with your own stupid fucking rhetoric,

                  No, I don’t. Quote me where I said I want civilians killed.

                  but you want to dance around the issue and pretend you aren’t doing what you are in fact doing.

                  You’re getting caught up in side issues. The issue is AOC voted against funding genocide in Israel. People are claiming she funded genocide by Israel. That is a provably false claim. It is a lie. Arguing over the amendment vote that didn’t matter is a distraction.

                  You are genuinely a fucking moron. I said nothing about Dresden or dropping nukes.

                  You were discussing the deaths of civilians. Those are historical events relevant to that discussion. Also, there’s no need for the ad hominems and name-calling.

                  You are literally advocating for sending AA guns to Hitler by equating and reducing all forms of military response as being one and the same as mass murder of civilians to suggest it’s legitimate to support funding for the Iron Dome as “defensive”.

                  I’m literally not. I was responding to your meaningless points that don’t matter because you brought them up, but you haven’t thought through all the implications. AA guns shoot down planes that have human beings in them. They aren’t the same as missiles that only shoot down other missiles.

                  All of these discussions about AA guns and Russian civilians are just bad analogies that ignore the context and the nuance. We can continue to discuss them if you like, but they have no bearing on whether the amendment vote was ever possibly going to have any functional or practical effect whatsoever.

                  If MTG brought up an amendment that said everyone gets to live forever and AOC voted against it, would you claim AOC is pro-death or would you recognize that MTG’s proposal was a useless measure that shouldn’t be taken seriously?

                  But honestly, I don’t care. If you’re not an American voter, as I suspect you aren’t, there’s no value in convincing you of anything.

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                    I’m not defending the vote so much as pointing out that it was a meaningless vote.

                    Just ignore the part where you kept suggesting the Iron Dome was “defensive” therefore it’s OK and “not a weapon” (lmao) therefore voting in favour of it would be legitimate.

                    Again, you’re just an obtuse moron twisting yourself into a pretzel pretending its nuance.

                    If MTG brought up an amendment that said everyone gets to live forever and AOC voted against it, would you claim AOC is pro-death or would you recognize that MTG’s proposal was a useless measure that shouldn’t be taken seriously?

                    You’re just not a serious person. Learn to shut the fuck up.

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                    You know what you could’ve done with the time it took you to write this shit? Find a job.

                    Fuckin loser 🌝