I can’t recall the word and I’m not about to google it, but I suspect they are generally not “pedophiles” but that thing that refers to post-puberty but still underage. Like the physical attributes of sexual maturity with the power dynamics of a child.
They might even go for plausible deniability. Again, haven’t researched too hard but I wouldn’t be surprised if some satisfied Epstein customers never actually asked or were told the specific ages and could at least claim they thought they were 18 or 19 or something.
I do expect the Epstein “list” to be potentially messy. If there’s one thing that seemed obvious is that he collected celebrity contact info like trophies. If there’s a “list” in practice, I hope it’s anchored in evidence and I hope Epstein was big on making sure he had blackmail fodder. If it’s just contacts he managed to get, that would be a rough time for everyone all around.
No arguments about it being deplorable, just that it is different and some things can happen in that case but not pedophelia, like someone claiming to be oblivious to the underage nature of the victim. It can strain credibility, but if you actually declare 18 as arbitrarily ‘good’ then after puberty some people have a chance at superficially passing, but no one could possibly believe that about a pre-teen. Of course 18 should be considered pretty deplorable if you are over 22 or so, but as it stands with things…
I can’t recall the word and I’m not about to google it, but I suspect they are generally not “pedophiles” but that thing that refers to post-puberty but still underage. Like the physical attributes of sexual maturity with the power dynamics of a child.
They might even go for plausible deniability. Again, haven’t researched too hard but I wouldn’t be surprised if some satisfied Epstein customers never actually asked or were told the specific ages and could at least claim they thought they were 18 or 19 or something.
I do expect the Epstein “list” to be potentially messy. If there’s one thing that seemed obvious is that he collected celebrity contact info like trophies. If there’s a “list” in practice, I hope it’s anchored in evidence and I hope Epstein was big on making sure he had blackmail fodder. If it’s just contacts he managed to get, that would be a rough time for everyone all around.
I think the word you’re looking for is Hebephilia.
Regardless of semantics, it’s all deplorable.
No arguments about it being deplorable, just that it is different and some things can happen in that case but not pedophelia, like someone claiming to be oblivious to the underage nature of the victim. It can strain credibility, but if you actually declare 18 as arbitrarily ‘good’ then after puberty some people have a chance at superficially passing, but no one could possibly believe that about a pre-teen. Of course 18 should be considered pretty deplorable if you are over 22 or so, but as it stands with things…