• riverSpirit@thelemmy.club
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    1 day ago

    Awww did the big bad vet kill some Iraqi kids while defending American geopolitical interests? No respect for veterans.

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      Most veterans started out as exploitable highschool kids and end up exploitated, handicapped, homeless, and without physical or mental healthcare.

      Don’t let political interests redirect your anger towards veterans. It’s a distraction that absolves the US government of responsibility for foreign policies rooted in American exceptionalism.

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        I had a friend in highschool who loved Germany, took the language, did an exchange program, recruiters told him he could get stationed in Germany for being bilingual. He did everything he was supposed to do, and trusted what authority figures told him.

        He got one month in Germany before he got redeployed to the Middle East.

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        War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.

        – Niko Bellic

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        15 hours ago

        No.

        Being young does not excuse joining a gang and murdering innocent people.

        American military fetishisation and it’s acceptance is revolting.

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          That’s not an excuse. That’s a reason to help you understand that systemic change isn’t instituted from yelling at a wall of dumb kids.

          Systemic change is instituted from policies that incentivize people to do the right thing, not by lazily dismissing problems as a product moral failure.

          Think about a country with subsidized access to higher education, healthcare, and social safety nets to prevent destitution and homelessness. High school kids wouldn’t be as desperate to join the military in large droves.

          You can be angry at people who are the product of a system working as intended, or you can step back and hold people in power accountable.

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          I’d love to hear your opinion on people who commit violent crimes after becoming addicted to pain killers pushed by the pharmaceutical industry next.

          You’re talking about one of the most propagandized populations in the world. Every single Hollywood action movie with a tank, plane, or helicopter is funded by military money and every engineering college owes its computers and other tech to donations by Raytheon and other defense contractors. Every time you see an American action movie, you’re directly funding the military industrial complex.

          Army recruiters stalk the halls of highschools and even get kids’ addresses and phone numbers from the schools to harass them outside of school. Every single American kid is pledging their undying loyalty by the age of 10 to the flag in every classroom like the kids in the Hitler’s Youth program. The Red Scare is a linchpin in American society.

          Hate the system, not its victims.

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      I have huge respect for some veterans, like the UN troops in the Kosovo war, or Rwanda. The problem is that you don’t get to pick and choose where you go as a soldier.

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          Sometimes people don’t know any better and have been brainwashed. Sometimes they aren’t murderous imperial trash.

          But, goons make the agenda go 'round, and goons are the worst.

          It’s complicated. I see both perspectives here. And it really is a case of we are all victims of our own evil culture. I used to defend the soldier whilst condemn the capitalist imperialism. But, as I grow wiser, that doesn’t quite resolve the reality of it all. We need to fix public education. And, getting rid of DEI is an actual disaster.

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            15 hours ago

            If you arm people you’ve forced against their will. They will eventually turn their guns back on their masters.

            This isn’t forced and it wouldn’t be if people had a spine.

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              Easy to say sitting in your comfy arm chair. The russian revolution was hell that you could never imagine.