• OrlandoDoom@feddit.uk
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    14 hours ago

    I’ve literally been saying that for years, like, no shit Sherlock this should be common knowledge.

    Nearly half the right to buy houses in Notts are owned by landlords too, and it was obvious that was going to happen.

    Why are our politicians so fucking short sighted?

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    The biggest extraction of wealth from public to private hands wasn’t privatisation of any utility or pumping money into “too big to fail banks” it was right to buy. And it was all fueled by Thatcher’s belief that council tenants vote Labour so we should get them to buy their houses.

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        This is it right here. If the provision were made that councils could take the money from the sales and build more up to date housing for each generation then right to buy would have been an accidentally utopian policy that bank rolled housing safety for everyone forever - fuelling more Tory votes. Instead we got 13 years of Blair. Cheers Maggie!

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          Absolutely! It would have been a virtuous cycle:

          Council builds house -> worker moves into house -> with house has enough stability to get a job -> works job, gets a few promotions, finds partner to settle down with -> couple work hard to save up to buy the house -> buy house from council -> couple settle into new house with kids they can pass the property onto -> council has enough money from that sale to build another house -> couple’s kids grow up complete their education and need employment -> the grown kids move into a council house and start looking for jobs.

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            14 hours ago

            You need a 100% inheritance tax to maintain this though, because otherwise the kids begin to accrue capital in the form of their parents’ house on their death.

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        Prior to the mid 1980s, housing in the UK was roughly split in 1/3s. One third in owner-occupier (you own the single home you live in) either outright or with a mortgage. One third lived in private rental (you pay rent to a landlord). The last third lived in council houses.

        These were owned by the local government and rented to people on lower incomes at reduced rents and on very liberal terms. To all intents and purposes, you could live in a council house all your life.

        Because this 3rd of residents tended to be on a lower income, tended to be working class and tended to vote Labour, Margaret Thatcher and the Tories saw them as a large threat to their electoral chances.

        The tories also spent many years courting the upwardly mobile, middle class home owners because in an era of deindustrialisation, they were a growing demographic and largely voted Tory.

        Right To Buy was, at least publicly, designed to give poorer people the right to purchase their council houses at reduced rates. This has two main consequences. Local governments were stripped of large amounts of their incomes, forcing them to strip services, starting a decades long decline in things like road maintenance, schools, youth services etc. A decline that has continued to get worse to this day.

        The other consequence is most of those council houses which were sold were then flipped into private rentals. The market now is split with still roughly 1/3rd owner occupied, council houses (now mostly owned by what’s called housing associations which have their own issues) are down to about 10% and private rentals now make up about 55%.

        As others have commented, because the policy was designed to reduce the amount of people in council houses, there was no requirement for councils to use the revenue they generated from the sales into building new houses. This meant that money was largely used to plug temporary gaps in funding rather than ensuring the next generation of houses were built.

        Some that held out like the big cities like Birmingham and some of the poorer London boroughs were actively punished by Thatcher with reductions in Central government funding.

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        Right to buy allowed social housing tenets in council owned houses to buy the house at a discount. It was a policy aimed at increasing the number of home owners but has proved divisive. It certainly worked well for those that took up the offer and were able to get their start on the housing ladder which would have otherwise been difficult. Some of the most gentrified areas of cities were once council house estates.

        In my personal opinion it would have been great if the money from the sales went to the councils to reinvest in the social housing stock however that is not what happened. The result has been a decline in council properties and plenty of arguments about who is most deserving to be on the waiting list for the slowly dwindling supply.

        We do have housing associations which are meant to fill the gap but their impact has been mixed.

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    I am constantly surprised the government simply doesn’t start a construction company, compulsory purchase brown field land and just build fucking build.

    Is this illegal or something? Is it those pesky Europeans stopping the government from doing this? Can’t they simply say, “fuck your objections we’re doing this”.

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      For years, successive governments have been in thrall to the large housebuilders. These businesses are incredibly bad for our society, building soulless estates with no facilities and with car-dependency baked in, all the while keeping supply deliberately short to inflate prices. Yet government always thinks these guys are the future of house building for some reason

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      The tories won’t do this for idealogical reasons. Labour rarely have the political capital or will for anything like this at scale.

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        14 hours ago

        This Labour government is almost ideologically identical to the Tory gov. They have imbibed neoliberal norms and we all have to pretend like it’s a perfectly sane way to run the state.

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        For ideological reasons sure Labour should welcome a government run public house building company. Nationalise It!. Same with Greens or this new Corbyn party. But you don’t hear anything like this.

        There must be something else going on.