100% Happiness. Satisfaction guaranteed, or you’ll be forcibly injected with tge happiness drug 🫠

(I just thought of antidepressants = happiness drug and this random thought popped up lmao)

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    They didn’t really ask us about our happiness, but rather just analyzed a bunch of facts. It looks like dor them “the ability leas a safe family life” is what is most important for happiness.

    But if you.don’t have a family, this place is worse than, well, almost anything in Europe.

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      22 hours ago

      They didn’t really ask us about our happiness, but rather just analyzed a bunch of facts

      Incorrect. World Happiness Report uses a poll question (conducted by Gallup) as the sole basis for the ranking.

      The other stuff isn’t used for making the ranking but rather:

      The six metrics are used to explain the estimated extent to which each of these factors contribute to increasing life satisfaction when compared to the hypothetical nation of Dystopia, but they themselves do not have an effect on the total score reported for each country.

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        17 hours ago

        Okay, thanks for the correction. Then it’s a bit funny the result has ended up the way it is.

        Probably the reason is then that we are taught not to complain about what we get. If you are asked whether you are happy with how things are not, you are supposed to assume that things are already done as well as reasonably possible and, therefore, as well as they can reasonably be. Therefore, you are happy with things. Of course, you might be exceptionally depressed, but you will still be happy about your how your country is run, because you know it’s, by defintion, run as well as it can be.

        But, maybe I’m still wrong. I now tried finding that one question in their report, but couldn’t find it in a reasonable time. What has the question been?

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          17 hours ago

          This is from the FAQ:

          How is your ranking calculated?

          Our happiness ranking is based on a single life evaluation question called the Cantril Ladder:

          Please imagine a ladder with steps numbered from 0 at the bottom to 10 at the top.

          The top of the ladder represents the best possible life for you and the bottom of the ladder represents the worst possible life for you.

          On which step of the ladder would you say you personally feel you stand at this time?

          This question is both democratic and universal. Rather than constructing an index from multiple metrics, the Cantril Ladder empowers people to make their own judgements about what matters most, regardless of their culture and background.

          The question does not mention concepts like happiness, wellbeing, or satisfaction, so it can be easily translated and understood in many different languages.

          So the question is mostly about contentment with life. I think the answer to why we rank so well is both that we live in a pretty good country comparatively and we are content with fairly little.

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            A depressed Finn would probably say that “this is the best possible life for me under these circumstances I live within.”

            Or, I could phrase the thought this way: “Things are shit, but no can do, so this is the best possible situation currently available for me.”

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              I’d say a depressed person would think that life could be better and that they’re not high up on the ladder, even though they don’t feel like they can get up to the higher rungs.

              In either case I would say that’s the same for depressed people elsewhere too, so it wouldn’t affect the ranking.

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                14 hours ago

                “Älä valita!” and “Ei pidä turhasta valittaa!” are things you hear a lot more in Finland than in other European countries. In English those would be “Don’t complain” and “Don’t complain if there’s no good reason!”

                At least when living in Germany, Ukraine, Spain and the Russia, I heard a lot less of that kind of stuff than what I had gotten used to in Finland. And people also seemed more happy in their everyday lives than what was familiar to me from Finland.

                You’ve probably also seen the advertisements by the Helsinki public transportation authority, HSL, telling how we have the best-functioning public transportation in Europe, based on locals in Helsinki giving better ratings for their public transportation than locals in other European cities do. And yet, most of the HSL network is based on bus lines, with only 1½ metro lines and three metro-like local train lines. Anybody who’s been to other European capitals knows that our public transportation is indeed good, but other cities have it a lot better.

                If you have 43 units of serotonin per 1 unit of volume in your blood, you’ll say you’re on rung 8 on the ladder of happiness if you’re a Finn, but with the same amount of serotonin in your blood you’ll say you’re on rung 6 or 7 of that same ladder if you’re, say, German. This causes us to score very well in any poll where they ask “how okay are you with how things are going around you?”

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                  13 hours ago

                  I think it’s a very Finnish reaction to try and complain and find faults in any positive news about Finland hah

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                    13 hours ago

                    Absolutely! And somehow it’s a part of the same modesty.

                    Things are what they are. They are not awesome, because there’s always place to make things better. So, if someone says that things are awesome, they are wrong. At the same time, people are constantly trying to make things better and better, and you trust that they are. (Or: at least you trust they are) So, if someone says things are bad, that’s unfair because things are as well as they can be. And yet, they are not awesome, because they can always be better.

                    (And then I’m trying to avoid not going for a tirade about the surprisingly high level corruption in Finland and how that’s fed by us being so proud of not having almost any corruption at all…)