body shaming is pretty shitty behavior, maybe don’t sink to their level
if anything point out the hypocrisy of them endorsing gender affirming elective surgery but denying it to others based on arbitrary criteria usually based in religious and antiscientific beliefs
But being like “hurr look at how fucking ugly this plastic faced woman is” is just as misogynistic as when right wing media plasters a bunch of pictures of alt women and rag on their appearance or tears apart images of trans women.
…But I think many people are sick of playing ‘fair’ while schoolyard bully insults of trans women (for instance) rake in millions of dollars and tons of ratings.
In the larger social media landscape? Principles don’t work. Algorithms are just going to suppress being polite.
I say spit fire back. If being a shithead is all that trends, mind as well make the enablers miserable. And hopefully the whole ragebait system falls apart, soon…
Nobody is shaming the bodies they were born with, but when you deliberately carve, stitch and inflate your face into something that would make any child spontaneously scream in abject fear and break down in tears of terror, you can’t reasonably expect it to pass unremarked upon.
It doesn’t have anything to do with gender either. It’s no different when men do the same.
Literal anti trans rhetoric if you delivered it slightly differently
Like jump on kiwi farms and your post would fit right in word for word in any of the trans hate threads. You are right there with their vitriol, you just change the target.
Obviously I don’t believe @xxce2AAb@feddit.dk is anti trans. That is why I said “if you worded it a bit different”. The point is the rhetoric is the same. If said poster said the exact same thing directed at a transgender person would it be anti trans then? Of fucking course? Horrifically so?
Thus one comment down in the chain their rhetoric fits right in with kiwifarms bullshit. You act like a schoolyard bully picking on peoples insecurities you’ll fit right in with gross shitheads, even if your “intentions are good” (whatever that means)
100%. Here is a game, pick your hateful vitriol out from random quotes I literally just pulled from kiwi farms just now, only changing to censure the names of victims and outright slurs
“when you deliberately carve, stitch and inflate your face into something that would make any child spontaneously scream in abject fear and break down in tears of terror, you can’t reasonably expect it to pass unremarked upon.”
“Seriously, that surgery made [x] look like he belonged in an extraterrestrial lock up somewhere for study.”
“Back in February of this year, [x] was feelin’ her oats something fierce when she posted body shots of her horrible, horrible body. Now because we’ve moved too far from God’s light, she’s really serving the “rot” in rotdog, and you’re all going to have to look at it with me”
“After thousands of dollars and hours of surgery, a [slur] is finally satisfied with her physique… for now. To anybody normal, however, it truly displays just how limited modern medicine still is, because she has the kind of dumpy, stitched-up body of a mother who gave birth to twins via C-Section in the 1970s.”
Tell me how yours is different. Honestly. Aside from the fact that the person you’re targeting is a mean bully
Pointing out the hypocrisy does fuck all, they know they’re fucking hypocrites and they will do and say anything for themselves. I’m going to stick with body shaming these pieces of shit cos mirroring their shitty behavior back on them has been the one thing I’ve noticed that shuts magats the fuck up. All you’re doing is appeasing them and doing what they want you to do to bait you into some bullshit “debate”
Hate the post all you want but classic neolib behavior. “You’re my friend when you’re on my team but then when you’re against me the internalized homophobia, racism, sexism, transphobia, fatphobia, etc I’ve been suppressing will come right out and I’ll go right back to call of duty lobby language”
My horse is extremely low. Call them a piece of shit if you want. Call them transphobic monsters, call them callous enablers of genocide, etc
But if you engage in body shaming because you don’t agree with them, or if you mock their ethnicity, gender, orientation, etc I assume you are no better than them. You are ultimately just waiting to take the mask off to reveal your phobic behavior and inner bully
Well, as a queer who has been called many things many times by magats who want me dead since Trump got re-elected, I don’t really give a fuck about them in any way anymore and I’m not going to be a welcoming person to someone who wants me dead. They can suck my glock
body shaming is pretty shitty behavior, maybe don’t sink to their level
if anything point out the hypocrisy of them endorsing gender affirming elective surgery but denying it to others based on arbitrary criteria usually based in religious and antiscientific beliefs
But being like “hurr look at how fucking ugly this plastic faced woman is” is just as misogynistic as when right wing media plasters a bunch of pictures of alt women and rag on their appearance or tears apart images of trans women.
In principle, I agree.
…But I think many people are sick of playing ‘fair’ while schoolyard bully insults of trans women (for instance) rake in millions of dollars and tons of ratings.
In the larger social media landscape? Principles don’t work. Algorithms are just going to suppress being polite.
I say spit fire back. If being a shithead is all that trends, mind as well make the enablers miserable. And hopefully the whole ragebait system falls apart, soon…
“I hope the ragebait system falls apart while I perpetuate it”
Fair enough.
I guess we should draw the line on Lemmy at least.
Nobody is shaming the bodies they were born with, but when you deliberately carve, stitch and inflate your face into something that would make any child spontaneously scream in abject fear and break down in tears of terror, you can’t reasonably expect it to pass unremarked upon.
It doesn’t have anything to do with gender either. It’s no different when men do the same.
Literal anti trans rhetoric if you delivered it slightly differently
Like jump on kiwi farms and your post would fit right in word for word in any of the trans hate threads. You are right there with their vitriol, you just change the target.
nothing in that comment sounded anti-trans at all.
I don’t know how to make it any clearer for you
Obviously I don’t believe @xxce2AAb@feddit.dk is anti trans. That is why I said “if you worded it a bit different”. The point is the rhetoric is the same. If said poster said the exact same thing directed at a transgender person would it be anti trans then? Of fucking course? Horrifically so?
Thus one comment down in the chain their rhetoric fits right in with kiwifarms bullshit. You act like a schoolyard bully picking on peoples insecurities you’ll fit right in with gross shitheads, even if your “intentions are good” (whatever that means)
…Are you serious?
100%. Here is a game, pick your hateful vitriol out from random quotes I literally just pulled from kiwi farms just now, only changing to censure the names of victims and outright slurs
“when you deliberately carve, stitch and inflate your face into something that would make any child spontaneously scream in abject fear and break down in tears of terror, you can’t reasonably expect it to pass unremarked upon.”
“Seriously, that surgery made [x] look like he belonged in an extraterrestrial lock up somewhere for study.”
“Back in February of this year, [x] was feelin’ her oats something fierce when she posted body shots of her horrible, horrible body. Now because we’ve moved too far from God’s light, she’s really serving the “rot” in rotdog, and you’re all going to have to look at it with me”
“After thousands of dollars and hours of surgery, a [slur] is finally satisfied with her physique… for now. To anybody normal, however, it truly displays just how limited modern medicine still is, because she has the kind of dumpy, stitched-up body of a mother who gave birth to twins via C-Section in the 1970s.”
Tell me how yours is different. Honestly. Aside from the fact that the person you’re targeting is a mean bully
Be better
One of those Lemmy moments when you’re getting downvoted for pointing out the uncomfortable truth.
Trans ppl modify their bodies -> body positivity Some terrible people modify their bodies -> they are ugly and mentally ill
*slow clap*
Pointing out the hypocrisy does fuck all, they know they’re fucking hypocrites and they will do and say anything for themselves. I’m going to stick with body shaming these pieces of shit cos mirroring their shitty behavior back on them has been the one thing I’ve noticed that shuts magats the fuck up. All you’re doing is appeasing them and doing what they want you to do to bait you into some bullshit “debate”
Hate the post all you want but classic neolib behavior. “You’re my friend when you’re on my team but then when you’re against me the internalized homophobia, racism, sexism, transphobia, fatphobia, etc I’ve been suppressing will come right out and I’ll go right back to call of duty lobby language”
Be better
Get off your high horse
“It’s okay when I do it you see”
My horse is extremely low. Call them a piece of shit if you want. Call them transphobic monsters, call them callous enablers of genocide, etc
But if you engage in body shaming because you don’t agree with them, or if you mock their ethnicity, gender, orientation, etc I assume you are no better than them. You are ultimately just waiting to take the mask off to reveal your phobic behavior and inner bully
Yawn
Hate spreads hate
Well, as a queer who has been called many things many times by magats who want me dead since Trump got re-elected, I don’t really give a fuck about them in any way anymore and I’m not going to be a welcoming person to someone who wants me dead. They can suck my glock