Under this scenario Russia would have military and economic control of occupied Ukraine under its own governing body, imitating Israel’s de facto rule of Palestinian territory seized from Jordan in 1967.
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Witkoff, who is also tasked by Trump with bringing peace to the Middle East, is understood to support the idea, which the Americans believe circumvents barriers in the Ukrainian constitution to ceding territory without holding an “all-Ukraine” referendum.
Yeah, you broke the code.
Can’t imagine why any Ukrainian person wouldn’t be on board for that. “Peace!” That sounds great, why don’t you like peace?
(Actually they pretty much did that in 2014 already. The details were a little different, but absolutely they were organizing ethnic Russians trying to violently seize control of the government in Ukrainian areas, and then they sent the Russian army to “protect” them when the Ukrainians started objecting and shooting back.)
I literally had an Israel defender on reddit agree that black people under apartheid should have accepted it for “peace”. I live in south Africa, fuck Nazis, even the Jewish ones.
Irony: Jewish people in SA were a big part of anti-apartheid efforts; all the while Israel was apartheid’s biggest mate (after Thatcher and Reagan got cold feet of course, don’t feel too righteous in the anglosphere).
Yeah, Reddit is super weird. There are a bunch of rabidly pro-Israel people who have infiltrated its world news communities in exactly the way that some Lemmy people love to imagine that they have done on Lemmy.