Donald Trump is discussing how the U.S. might pull out of NATO or put it on "standby" should he be reelected and it not meet his demands, per sources.
  • Chainweasel@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1081·
    2 years ago

    He can plot all he wants, but he’s not the president anymore.
    I don’t know why news outlets insist on headlining their articles like he has some kind of presidential power when he doesn’t even have the power to keep his speeches on topic.

    • RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world
      501·
      2 years ago

      As a warning?

      Granted, I’d word it a bit differently: “This burned-cheese looking sack of rotten assholes would upend all national security, destroy NATO, and allow Putin’s Russia and the CCP raw-dog-rape the rest of the planet while he becomes another pathetic fatass watching military parades like Kim Jong Un. If you refuse to adore him, his regime will murder and/or rape you. Now tell us again why you would vote for this moronic dumpster fire of unrealized liposuction profits because he’s only three years younger than the guy spending his remaining years on this planet unfucking what this #1 blue-ribbon gold medalist of Shitshow Olympics and rapist already did to the country.”

      Er, something like that, anyway.

      • APassenger@lemmy.world
        7·
        2 years ago

        And all that’s needed is Biden to fall ill with no credible back up available. It could be that simple.

        I am not enjoying a lot of what I see. I hope, however, people understand what’s at stake - or that they will.

          • meat_popsicle@sh.itjust.works
            21·
            2 years ago

            You’re absolutely right.

            Can’t be Sanders: the centrist and corporate Democrats won’t allow that. Plus, he’s a party outsider. As the dems just showed with Laphonza Butler’s appointment, being tight with the party machine matters more than any other qualification. Even living in the state you’re supposed to represent.

            Can’t be Warren: the GOP has a hate machine on standby for “Pocahontas” if she were to ever be in the national spotlight again. Plus, corporate Democrats won’t allow her due to her work creating the CFPB. She interferes with too much profit.

    • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      251·
      2 years ago

      There are 70 new Trump articles this morning. Dude is a train wreck of bad ideas and they make headlines.

  • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
    521·
    2 years ago

    He famously visited Russia in the 80s and immediately returned loudly isolationist.

    He wants to pull out of all international organizations that are part of the world order the US set up to favor the US. He lies about how much it costs (he said the US pays 90% of NATO costs when it really pays 20%) so they will obviously never meet whatever insane demands he puts on them because on the off chance they do he will just lie and say they didn’t.

    I don’t want to be the “weird how every radical move he makes helps Russia” guy because it needs to be allowable for folks to have a variety of views in a Democracy. But his position on NATO is essentially indefensible among people who know what they’re talking about, and aligns entirely with Russian propaganda.

  • Fridgeratr@lemmy.world
    31·
    2 years ago

    Pull what out of NATO? He’s not in charge of anything. He can pretend to pull out of NATO while in prison

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 years ago

      I’d be surprised if he didn’t have little secret hush money Donnie Jrs running around because he couldn’t pull out before. Hell, I don’t even expect him to pull his own foot out of his mouth.

  • Foni@lemm.ee
    8·
    2 years ago

    If we Europeans had any doubts about making our own defense policy outside the USA, Trum’s electoral options make it clear that it is a necessity

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    11·
    2 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    When the former president has privately discussed the United States’ role in the transatlantic military alliance this year, Trump has made clear that he doesn’t want the upper ranks of a second administration to be staffed by “NATO lovers,” according to two sources who’ve heard him make such comments.

    One former senior administration official recalls to Rolling Stone a moment in the Oval Office in mid-2018 when the then-president started reading from a written list of smaller NATO countries, some of which he argued most Americans had never even heard of before.

    Trump then vented that “starting World War III” over some of these countries’ sovereignty made absolutely no sense, and that he shouldn’t be forced to automatically commit American troops to any such crisis.

    But this time around, an array of nationalist allies and pro-Trump policy wonks have been eager to offer the ex-president frameworks for how to MAGA-fy the U.S. approach to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

    Bolton recounted a number of attempts in which Trump, frustrated by an impression that NATO members were stiffing the U.S. on an imagined tab, alternately threatened to leave or reduce America’s commitment to the Atlantic alliance, only to have the threats walked back by staff.

    The measure would tie up any attempt at a formal withdrawal in Congress but would not prevent a future Trump administration from undermining confidence in the U.S. security guarantees implicit in the alliance.

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