Women would literally rather be stuck with a bear rather than a man they do not know. So, is it sexism? Or is there a fundamental problem (read patriarchy) that makes women scared of men.
Do you think it’s sexist to report that men commit 90% of all rape and sexual assault?
That is way more than just patriarchal society. If a woman would rather be stuck in a room with a bear than a man she doesn’t know, there’s something psychologically wrong with that woman.
The only way you’d choose a bear over a stranger is if you have a prejudice that all men are violent or rapists. Because the bear will most likely kill you.
Bears are predictable, they will probably run from you or maul you. They don’t kill for pleasure, they don’t keep you alive for a game, they don’t torture you.
The point is a women doesn’t know you, or what your capable of. They do know what bears are capable of.
Women are painfully aware it’s “not all men”. But women also can’t read minds and don’t know your intentions. Can you really blame someone for erring on the side of caution?
Choosing the bear over a stranger isn’t prejudice, it’s avoiding the fear of the unknown.
Oof. I really shouldn’t have to explain the systemic difference between the two.
Also once again, this comic is making the joke that a strange man could be a rapist, and that women are not interested in strange men the same way men may be interested strange women - not that all single men are rapists.
You’re purposefully conflating this comic to the level of hating men, and then to the level of using crime statistics to perpetuate systemic racism. Brother you’ve lost the plot.
Men, particularly the vast majority of working class men, are victims of the patriarchy even at the same time they receive privileges. There’s an unfortunate sentiment among the woke that people who happen to be part of a privileged group are bad. White people are colonizers, straight people are toxic, men are all violent sexual predators, etc. For a lot of people, it’s much easier to be woke and fight for an equal and just world when the victims of that oppression are obvious.
If this exact same comic was made by JK Rowling and replaced “men” with “trans women” or “trans men” the comments section would be (rightfully) shooting it down as being bigoted.
All that aside, from a practical standpoint it’s also worth pointing out that any sexual assault expert will tell you the vast majority happen between people who already know each other. A victim is more likely to be abused by their own family members, family friends, teachers, religious figures, youth leaders, coworkers, or significant other than they are a random stranger. Of course, it’s always dangerous to meet strangers (robbery, fraud, and more).
Which is important to point out because it’s a very quick jump from “women don’t feel safe because of all of these men around” to “well let’s get rid of the most violent men”. Which, oddly enough, tend to also be a part of whatever group they are trying to eliminate. Jews in pre-WW2 Germany, black men in America, communists in McCarthyism, Hispanics under Trump, Syrian refugees in Europe. It always starts with “this group wants to hurt our women and children” and ends with everyone losing rights to authoritarian regimes.
Omg we’re so close! Yes they defend themselves because those statistics are being used as weapons in furthering systemic racism. Us making fun of men (once again, not happening in this comic) does nothing but damage the patriarchy, which we agree is good right?
To be clear, when we shit on bad men - I do want there to be nuance that we are specifically talking about bad men. This comic doesn’t need that because he’s either a rapist or he’s not - but it doesn’t matter because he’s still a stranger and that MAY be dangerous.
Lmao, so it’s only an asshole move when men do it. Gotcha. If I’m an asshole no matter what, then you’re a fucking cunt who probably had or would have had her gross face pasted on the Tea app leak.
Jeez dude you just don’t get it. There isn’t anything wrong with defending men but this comic doesn’t hate men. You thinking it does is part of the problem.
This comic isn’t saying that all single men are rapists - hell we don’t even know if the single man they are showing is a rapist. What we, and women, do know is that men commit almost all SA. It’s a fact. The comic is playing into the fact that they market sex at men by saying “look strange women” and men fuck with it. Saying “look strange men” to women doesn’t typically illicit the same response.
The fact that you are so upset kinda makes me think you might be represented by this comic.
I’m trying to point out that if you aren’t a rapist, this comic shouldn’t offend you. It doesn’t criticize men - if it said single men are rapists, then I would be upset too and I’m not single. But it doesn’t. Instead it recognizes that women have good reasons to be scared of men, especially strangers, and so long as you’re not one of those reasons, this has nothing to do with you.
Women would literally rather be stuck with a bear rather than a man they do not know. So, is it sexism? Or is there a fundamental problem (read patriarchy) that makes women scared of men.
Do you think it’s sexist to report that men commit 90% of all rape and sexual assault?
That is way more than just patriarchal society. If a woman would rather be stuck in a room with a bear than a man she doesn’t know, there’s something psychologically wrong with that woman.
The only way you’d choose a bear over a stranger is if you have a prejudice that all men are violent or rapists. Because the bear will most likely kill you.
Bears are predictable, they will probably run from you or maul you. They don’t kill for pleasure, they don’t keep you alive for a game, they don’t torture you.
The point is a women doesn’t know you, or what your capable of. They do know what bears are capable of.
Women are painfully aware it’s “not all men”. But women also can’t read minds and don’t know your intentions. Can you really blame someone for erring on the side of caution?
Choosing the bear over a stranger isn’t prejudice, it’s avoiding the fear of the unknown.
Its about as sexist to say that, as it is racist to spout crime statistics about black people without solution.
Okay not sexist at all then. Because there’s nothing racist about crime statistics about black people.
What people might do or say in regards to those statistics is typically where the racism comes in.
In a thread where the discussion is men, spouting statistics without solution is prejudicial.
Just like it would be racist to do the same thing with black people.
You’re being purposefully ignorant of the current thread we are in.
Oof. I really shouldn’t have to explain the systemic difference between the two.
Also once again, this comic is making the joke that a strange man could be a rapist, and that women are not interested in strange men the same way men may be interested strange women - not that all single men are rapists.
You’re purposefully conflating this comic to the level of hating men, and then to the level of using crime statistics to perpetuate systemic racism. Brother you’ve lost the plot.
Is the patriarchy not a systemic issue?
Bringing up statistics without a solution is problematic, to say the very least.
If you have issue with that statement, then you may need to rethink your approach.
YES! We’re getting to the same page. The difference is the patriarchy defends itself. I’ve never seen a black person fight to defend systemic racism.
But I have seen black people defend themselves when someone brings up crime stats without solutions or discussions of the systems in place.
Weird how that works huh?
Men, particularly the vast majority of working class men, are victims of the patriarchy even at the same time they receive privileges. There’s an unfortunate sentiment among the woke that people who happen to be part of a privileged group are bad. White people are colonizers, straight people are toxic, men are all violent sexual predators, etc. For a lot of people, it’s much easier to be woke and fight for an equal and just world when the victims of that oppression are obvious.
If this exact same comic was made by JK Rowling and replaced “men” with “trans women” or “trans men” the comments section would be (rightfully) shooting it down as being bigoted.
All that aside, from a practical standpoint it’s also worth pointing out that any sexual assault expert will tell you the vast majority happen between people who already know each other. A victim is more likely to be abused by their own family members, family friends, teachers, religious figures, youth leaders, coworkers, or significant other than they are a random stranger. Of course, it’s always dangerous to meet strangers (robbery, fraud, and more).
Which is important to point out because it’s a very quick jump from “women don’t feel safe because of all of these men around” to “well let’s get rid of the most violent men”. Which, oddly enough, tend to also be a part of whatever group they are trying to eliminate. Jews in pre-WW2 Germany, black men in America, communists in McCarthyism, Hispanics under Trump, Syrian refugees in Europe. It always starts with “this group wants to hurt our women and children” and ends with everyone losing rights to authoritarian regimes.
Omg we’re so close! Yes they defend themselves because those statistics are being used as weapons in furthering systemic racism. Us making fun of men (once again, not happening in this comic) does nothing but damage the patriarchy, which we agree is good right?
To be clear, when we shit on bad men - I do want there to be nuance that we are specifically talking about bad men. This comic doesn’t need that because he’s either a rapist or he’s not - but it doesn’t matter because he’s still a stranger and that MAY be dangerous.
So if I am being an asshole, I should make the “logical” jump that all single women are whores and sluts because majority of prostitutes are women.
Not all men and not all women. Generalising is never good.
Yes you are being an asshole thanks for noticing. Also wtf are you on about - no where does it say “ALL SINGLE MEN ARE RAPIST.”
You saw yourself in this comic and got defensive - that “whores and sluts” line came naturally to you.
This is the same reaction that I had when I saw the post that says “men are rapists”. I got offended.
Lmao, so it’s only an asshole move when men do it. Gotcha. If I’m an asshole no matter what, then you’re a fucking cunt who probably had or would have had her gross face pasted on the Tea app leak.
Ah there you are - this was never about defending men, this was about hating women. Also I’m a man lol
Defending women can involve hating men but not the other way round. Noted
Jeez dude you just don’t get it. There isn’t anything wrong with defending men but this comic doesn’t hate men. You thinking it does is part of the problem. This comic isn’t saying that all single men are rapists - hell we don’t even know if the single man they are showing is a rapist. What we, and women, do know is that men commit almost all SA. It’s a fact. The comic is playing into the fact that they market sex at men by saying “look strange women” and men fuck with it. Saying “look strange men” to women doesn’t typically illicit the same response.
The fact that you are so upset kinda makes me think you might be represented by this comic.
Are you trying to say I am a rapist? I am not sure
I’m trying to point out that if you aren’t a rapist, this comic shouldn’t offend you. It doesn’t criticize men - if it said single men are rapists, then I would be upset too and I’m not single. But it doesn’t. Instead it recognizes that women have good reasons to be scared of men, especially strangers, and so long as you’re not one of those reasons, this has nothing to do with you.