JD “dog eater” Vance likes them.

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    I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying pick your battles.

    “The enemy of my enemy” is not my friend, but can be useful…

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      They’re skateboards and halfpipes. Newsom ramps off Trump for some sick air and we go nuts. Then Trump ramps off Newsom and does a 900 causing the crowd to burst into applause. At the end the respective judges for both sides holds up their scorecards.

      They look like they enjoy the sport and the cheers from the crowd. I expect them to shake hands and say “good game” afterwards. I’m not interested in their sport I just want to see them break their legs.

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      That really depends on who you are, doesn’t it?

      If this guy “completely aligns” with the republicans on whether my friends are actual people that deserve to be treated as actual people, than to them, and by extension to me, he is not the enemy of my enemy. He’s my enemy period.

      So yeah. Fuck this guy.

      I’m not gonna horse trade human rights.

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        A neoliberal who doesn’t actively try to suppress trans rights (California has some of the strongest trans legal protections in the country) is infinitely preferable to a fascist who wants them all dead. You’re welcome to consider him an enemy, but there are degrees of enemies.

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          Of course. I’m not stupid. But I’m going to keep saying “fuck this guy” until he stops being that fucking guy.

          This is not a two horse race. Not yet. And even if it were, I’d be shouting “fuck this guy” as I tick his name on the ballot.

          “Not being exactly like the worst president in the short history of this fucking country” is just not fucking good enough.

          FUCK THIS GUY.

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            Why you acting like anyone likes these politics mother fuckers?

            All of them wiped off the face of the earth tomorrow I wouldn’t shed a tear. Do you think I care if youre indignant?

            Its all a means to an end. Im particularly thrilled its Newsom deploying these tactics because they are risky. Sure, they work, he reaps the rewards. They back fire his ambitions have to shrink. In the mean time he’s helping people like AOC and others find the path.

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              Dude, I’m just sad the only person to fight back is transphobic trash AND that the transphobia is an active part of the strategy.

              He’s saying “fuck those guys, no one cares about them”. And people like you go “bravo sir can we have more”.

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                Im sad everyday. I wish I knew you so I could give you comfort and we could really bitch about this shit to each other endlessly. My appetite for depression and hopelessness is bottomless. Except, I have to get up each morning and make sure the people I love know Im ok and the people I support are supported. So when Im not doing that, I think on the cracks that still shine daylight, metaphorically speaking, and paw at them with my bare hands hoping something gives.

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        “You will like the transphobic child killer pedo country supporter because he knows what a meme is. What? No, we can’t attack him for being a pedophile and supporting a genocide, stop it.”

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        Let me guess, you sat out the last election because of Gaza, didn’t you?

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          Dude, can you read? I just said in this thread that I’d vote for him in a two horse race. But I’m going to be vocal about him being transphobic trash as I do so.

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            Honestly, it was the rational move and if more people had done it things would be different right now.

            But that does not mean you have fucking campaign for her, whether on Lemmy or anywhere else.

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              Ah, good old whataboutism. I know it seems crazy, but hear me out: you are not the only country out there. 🤯 So, back to the topic were you happy about her genocide plan?

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                Essentially no one was happy about her pro Israel stance. There just wasn’t another option that was better that actually had a chance at winning. While she is also bad she is no where near as bad as Trump is.

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                  Okay, thank you for a proper answer and not just a sassy comment to shame who doesn’t stomach dead kids.

                  I do have a couple of problem with this approach:

                  • every person on the ballot has a chance to win
                  • If you keep voting the “not as bad as” candidate you will inevitably end up with fascism
                  • You CAN NOT blame you own neighbours and friends for having a conscience and not voting a genocide (this is even crazy to write jesus christ)
                  • kamala was a last moment placeholder with no real proposals other then “not trump”
                  • jill stein was on the ballot
                  • mamdani, corbyn and melenchon (to name just a few) were and will always be portrayed as marginal, small and insignificant by the ruling establishment, it’s propaganda
                  • Trump is a dictator and there will never be a fair election as long as maga are in power
                  • Newsom, Trump, Kamala, AOC, Bernie and 95% of the US political class is paid by the same lobby. If you cheer for newsom you are falling for the same trick.

                  I just hope for an american awakening rather than nuclear winter.

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                    There weren’t enough people who voted third party to be able to change the results of the election even if they had all voted for Harris.

                    Don’t say you have only a couple issues if there are 8 issues you have. I’m going to go point by point.

                    • every person on the ballot has a chance to win

                    While that is technically true it is extremely unlikely. Like I just said there were not enough people who voted third party to change this election even if they all voted for Harris. I don’t like that we are in a 2 party system but we are.

                    If you keep voting the “not as bad as” candidate you will inevitably end up with fascism

                    This is false the same way how you said every person on the ballot can win is true. Theoretically the not as bad as candidate could be a great candidate. In practice though I agree but there currently isn’t another option.

                    You CAN NOT blame you own neighbours and friends for having a conscience and not voting a genocide (this is even crazy to write jesus christ)

                    I don’t never said I did. While I do think that Harris would have been wayyy better than trump I do agree that she would have most likely perpetuated the genocide for at least some time

                    kamala was a last moment placeholder with no real proposals other then “not trump”

                    True. Which honestly a pretty solid proposal

                    jill stein was on the ballot

                    She has her own issues

                    mamdani, corbyn and melenchon (to name just a few) were and will always be portrayed as marginal, small and insignificant by the ruling establishment, it’s propaganda

                    Kinda true they are small idk about insignificant

                    Trump is a dictator and there will never be a fair election as long as maga are in power

                    Maybe yeah probably. You know who isn’t maga? Harris. So would you rather have an election or not?

                    Newsom, Trump, Kamala, AOC, Bernie and 95% of the US political class is paid by the same lobby. If you cheer for newsom you are falling for the same trick.

                    Simply not true Bernie is mostly funded by small donations same with AOC except she is funded even more (percentage wise) from small donations. Newsom and Trump true. I know Newsom is probably just another Obama but less charismatic. I think what he is currently doing is funny but I realize he is not a good candidate.

                    An American awakening would be sick but you have to realize that’s extremely unlikely