Edit: Replaced “Restrictions” in place of the word “Ban”
Fairphone makes an effort to open source all code including device trees and encourages the developement of custom roms and alternative oses like Linux mobile. So I’ll just switch to a Fairphone with a custom ROM.
I won’t switch to mobile linux though since I don’t want to go back to an unsandboxed environment.
Custom roms. Support them all
Source for this ban claim?
I know there is a ban on not being able to install unsigned apps, but it won’t limit apps to only Google Play apps.
Please, while the whole situation is BS, adding complete misinformation to the mix isn’t going to help.
I’ve been looking into pure Linux Phones like Ubuntu touch and the Kali Mobile thing. Shame that its limited to hardware that I can’t find here
I have been using custom ROMs since CyanogenMod and am currently mostly on GrapheneOS, some of it entirely Google-free.
I used to use cyanogen mod but have not used a custom ROM in years. How difficult is it to setup these days and how difficult will it be to adjust?
GrapheneOS is very easy and smooth, but only works on Pixel hardware. LineageOS is more rough around the edges and considerably less secure.
- I’ll believe it when I see it.
- I’ll begin transitioning to a different linux-based os
what are the downsides of rooting?
My banking and government apps don’t run on rooted phones
No more over-the-air updates, no more locked bootloader. Those are both significant security downgrades that usually come with rooting Android.
Edit: downvoters apparently dont know that the main rooting methods all modify the boot partition, which prevents OTA updates from succeeding. Updates are very important to protect your phone with security patches against zero days and other vulnerabilities. Likewise modifying the bootloader requires unlocking it - which means no more secure boot and anyone who takes your phone can happily boot whatever they like on it. This is also bad.
Im sorta lazy. Did not switch to linux until windows 11 even though I should have after windows 7. I use the android that came on the phone because im lazy but I have to be able to sideload so this may turn out to be androids windows 11.
I’m so tired of this shit man, I no longer have any real plan.
I’m seriously considering carrying the smallest x86/ARM Tablet capable of running Linux I can alongside some cheap phone for 4G hotspot and calls/strictly necessary.Guess PC land is the last place we still have freedom (for now!!! 🙄🙄🙄)
If my job didn’t require MS Authenticator I would just be carrying around a dumb phone and my work laptop.
You can use a MiFi router with tablet and a dumbphone just for calls.
Not for long, the Microsoft boot secure thing is sus
I’m not one to bang on about the year of Linux, but honestly, the floor is falling out from under ‘consumer Windows,’ and they are doing little to stop it.
At some point, even OEMs are going to get fed up and start offering their own wine/proton centric distros on some laptops/big tablets. They will be awful and bloated, and business laptops will probably be stuck with Windows forever, but still.
Fedora is a thing
I ordered a Pixel and plan to flash Graphine. I hate the cruel irony of paying Google to degoogle a phone, but my current phone is on its last legs.
Hope to keep this one alive a good few years, after that I have no clue. I hope Linux phones catch up.
GrapheneOS is a lot more smoother experience than LineageOS.
Either that or CalyxOS
Use whatever I got for now and then hope that phones that allow custom Roms don’t die out when it comes to buying a replacement in the future.
I don’t even use gmail anymore which made it easy to start degoogling and moving away from using Google account based stuff like Google Keep and opting for Foss variants. So hope custom ROM scene can survive or look into Linux phones.
Probably grapheneos until it dies (thanks Google) then 2 phones, a cheap stock one at home shutdown and no sim, only for critical services that are exclusively app based, and a Linux phone as my main.
Good transitional way to do it too. I thought of similar for travel. Have a “travel phone” for flights, rental car, ride share, whatever. And it goes off as soon as you’re far enough along to not need it anymore. On for return trip, then back in the drawer it goes.
What are you talking about a ban on sideloading?
Ah, so people saw a signing requirement, that may or may not only be part of play protect and immediately called it a sideloading ban.
My plan is to wait and see if it even affects me in any way.
Yeah, people are overreacting, but Google taking control here is still a big issue
Use whatever I have for now, with less and less apps. Turn the device off when I am not using it. Start experimenting with project boards with modem cards.
OG iPad with a Bluetooth headset would have been a goto mobile device for most things in size, battery life, cellular reception. Never happened, of course, when they could sell you 30 devices kneecapped in various ways instead. So if what I end up building is a bit large, that is just fine.
I’ve been using LineageOS for years, and have been planning for my next phone to be a used Pixel running GrapheneOS. While this announcement from Google sucks shit, it won’t affect me I don’t think. More worrying are the other changes in the pipeline that would stop development of GrapheneOS. I am dying for a working Linux phone.
It won’t apply to GrapheneOS. It only applies to certified OSes and GrapheneOS is not certified because it doesn’t license Google Mobile Services.
I get that. I’m more worried about other planned changes that will affect Grapheme development.
We HAD one. It was called Greenphone.
It didn’t sell.
Now we don’t.
It did sell. And it seems the vendor’s plan was to use it to promote their software platform and nothing more.
That was a pivot, according to a dev on the project.
Damn, never even heard of it. Surely demand is higher now.
