Yeah, it’ll take a long time for it to reach any kind of critical mass where people make stuff for it cause folks will watch it, and folks will be there to watch it because there’s stuff there worth watching. Discovery that isn’t a dumpster fire would help 😅
But even then, its almost guaranteed it won’t be YouTube. The things that exist on YouTube largely can’t really exist without monetization. Maybe sponsors will eventually care about peertube views? Or folks who monetize largely through merch might still be able to make things work? But youtube is largely a job, and people will generally stay where they get paid the best :/
But I still hope that folks other than FOSS or privacy people might slowly consider uploading to both, and eventually get to a point where it can exist in parallel for at least some amount of lower effort, or lower cost, more hobby video sharing
Yeah, parallel uploads and hobby posting is the only thing we can expect from PeerTube right now. Like many others, I do want it to succeed, and I hate that my mom and I watch YT so much (it’s basically her TV), but I’ve tried to use PT and there’s just a lack of content, and difficulty in finding new interesting content. Sponsorships are gonna be the only main way to pay creators.
Like even in a magical world where network effect didn’t exist and everyone joined it, PeerTube is still gonna struggle due to not having monetization. People love to argue, “Oh, but YT only pays them cents!” Exactly. A few cents per viewer is probably going to amount to more than the amount you would get from those who are actually willing to pay for your content, and if you get the algorithm sweet spot then you reach more people. The burden is already minimally placed on the viewer on YT (watch sponsors, join channel ($ sub), watch ads, buy merch, donate to Patreon/Ko-Fi/Personal Website/etc.), and PT ramps that burden up to 100 by having no ads nor algorithm. We have to do the work to share content and sponsor/support creators. In a perfect world, everyone has money and can give 5~10 dollars to channels they like every month or so. But the reality is I just can’t think of how many creators I actually would pay to see exclusive content… Not at the monthly price of $5~, and to multiple people anyway.
Yeah, I watch tons of youtube myself and am currently working on cutting back.
Better content algorithms or discovery would help so damn much as a start though, it’s really hard to find anything worth watching in the sea of “technically this is a video you can watch cause someone uploaded it to the internet”. Thats why I like the Peertube comm on lemmy. Its mostly the same creators but its at least some curated exposure to what’s available
Yeah, it’ll take a long time for it to reach any kind of critical mass where people make stuff for it cause folks will watch it, and folks will be there to watch it because there’s stuff there worth watching. Discovery that isn’t a dumpster fire would help 😅
But even then, its almost guaranteed it won’t be YouTube. The things that exist on YouTube largely can’t really exist without monetization. Maybe sponsors will eventually care about peertube views? Or folks who monetize largely through merch might still be able to make things work? But youtube is largely a job, and people will generally stay where they get paid the best :/
But I still hope that folks other than FOSS or privacy people might slowly consider uploading to both, and eventually get to a point where it can exist in parallel for at least some amount of lower effort, or lower cost, more hobby video sharing
Yeah, parallel uploads and hobby posting is the only thing we can expect from PeerTube right now. Like many others, I do want it to succeed, and I hate that my mom and I watch YT so much (it’s basically her TV), but I’ve tried to use PT and there’s just a lack of content, and difficulty in finding new interesting content. Sponsorships are gonna be the only main way to pay creators.
Like even in a magical world where network effect didn’t exist and everyone joined it, PeerTube is still gonna struggle due to not having monetization. People love to argue, “Oh, but YT only pays them cents!” Exactly. A few cents per viewer is probably going to amount to more than the amount you would get from those who are actually willing to pay for your content, and if you get the algorithm sweet spot then you reach more people. The burden is already minimally placed on the viewer on YT (watch sponsors, join channel ($ sub), watch ads, buy merch, donate to Patreon/Ko-Fi/Personal Website/etc.), and PT ramps that burden up to 100 by having no ads nor algorithm. We have to do the work to share content and sponsor/support creators. In a perfect world, everyone has money and can give 5~10 dollars to channels they like every month or so. But the reality is I just can’t think of how many creators I actually would pay to see exclusive content… Not at the monthly price of $5~, and to multiple people anyway.
What we need is something like public access for web video.
Yeah, I watch tons of youtube myself and am currently working on cutting back.
Better content algorithms or discovery would help so damn much as a start though, it’s really hard to find anything worth watching in the sea of “technically this is a video you can watch cause someone uploaded it to the internet”. Thats why I like the Peertube comm on lemmy. Its mostly the same creators but its at least some curated exposure to what’s available
Victoria Explains is on there. I don’t recognize anybody else.
Oh, and of course the obligatory Linux dudes speaking in German.
Du musst verstehen, Linux ist stark in unserer Heimat.