More like “hilarious”, especially since he was literally doing his “we must accept shootings for the 2A” shtick. Literally would be something written in a dark comedy.
Back during the 1950s, a USSR elementary school is discussing the definition of different words. The teacher asks “who can say what catastrophe means?”
Dmitri raises his hand, “if my mother dropped her groceries on the way home, that would be a catastrophe.”
Teacher: “not quite, that would be a misfortune, it wouldn’t be a catastrophe.”
Svetlana raises her hand and says “if a plane were to crash, that would be a catastrophe.”
Teacher: “not exactly, that would certainly be a tragedy but not a catastrophe.
Then Sasha raises his hand, “if our great comrade Stalin died, that would be a catastrophe.”
Teacher: “very good! That would indeed be a catastrophe. How did you know that was correct?”
Sasha: “well, it wouldn’t be a misfortune, it wouldn’t be a tragedy…”
This is unironically the same idea that started the Black Panthers. People noticed that peaceful unarmed protests were violently busted by the cops… But peaceful heavily armed protests were politely watched from across the street. So they started arming the people who were protesting, and those people were largely minorities.
Then logically one could infer that they would rather die than prevent the senseless violence.
EDIT: I’m not advocating for anyone’s death or praising what occurred. I just wanted to point to how moronic his stance was. Why would anyone say any death from gun violence is okay?
I’m guessing it’s more like they think it won’t happen to them. A lot right wingers are very shortsighted. They lack the imagination or empathy that if something happens to someone else, it can also happen to them.
We don’t know the politics of the shooter so far, but one thing the right seems to not understand is they have an absurdly low threshold for violence.
A right winger will assault if not kill someone for the most minor of “infractions” if they have a reason at all. Most of the time it’s just existing in a way they don’t like or “Walking while black”. They are bloodthirsty and just want to kill everyone who isn’t like them.
The left also has a threshold it’s just a lot higher. Some may even say too high, but the left doesn’t kill someone over the clothes they wear or even being directly insulted and threatened.
Most of the “violence” from the left is fucking property damage, but pushed far enough the left can and will defend themselves and their communities.
The key difference I’ve noticed between left wing vs right wing political discourse is that left wing politicians, pundits, and commentators very rarely rile up their base or audience with violent rhetoric, but right wingers do.
I don’t imagine that would be enough time for someone to even process the various stimuli enough to realize that what just happened was a gunshot, tbh, let alone consider the implications of that.
Assuming the time wasn’t an exaggeration that is, I’m fairly squeamish so I don’t think I’ll be watching that video to see how long it really was.
It is pretty graphic so avoid if you’re not comfortable seeing that type of content. Otherwise, your guess is very accurate. It looked like he had maybe a half second of consciousness before lights out, but it was spent in a surprise that the mind did not comprehend.
Arteries spray, so must have hit a vein. That is survivable if you get fast medical attention to stop the bleeding. It’s dicey, but since it’s already been over an hour, he either has enough blood left at this point or he doesn’t.
He lost consciousness instantly, indicating significant loss of blood pressure towards the brain, i.e., an artery was hit.
Secondly, not just hit but completely severed, explaining the massive non-spraying blood loss; similar to why a garden hose without the nozzle just flows. Only if it were a small enough puncture it would spray.
Reminder that this is Kirk’s stance on guns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVc9l6pjxtI
Unfettered 2A is worth the gun deaths according to Charlie Idiot here.
ETA: holy shit, saw a clip and damn, that dude is dead.
Statistics are always nice and vague until you become one of them.
One death is a tragedy, Charlie Kirk’s is a statistic
More like “hilarious”, especially since he was literally doing his “we must accept shootings for the 2A” shtick. Literally would be something written in a dark comedy.
Reminds me of a joke.
Back during the 1950s, a USSR elementary school is discussing the definition of different words. The teacher asks “who can say what catastrophe means?” Dmitri raises his hand, “if my mother dropped her groceries on the way home, that would be a catastrophe.” Teacher: “not quite, that would be a misfortune, it wouldn’t be a catastrophe.” Svetlana raises her hand and says “if a plane were to crash, that would be a catastrophe.” Teacher: “not exactly, that would certainly be a tragedy but not a catastrophe. Then Sasha raises his hand, “if our great comrade Stalin died, that would be a catastrophe.” Teacher: “very good! That would indeed be a catastrophe. How did you know that was correct?” Sasha: “well, it wouldn’t be a misfortune, it wouldn’t be a tragedy…”
Haha, I’ve heard this same joke before but with Ian Paisley, the unionist leader in Northern Ireland.
“How did you know that that would be a tragedy, if my plane were to crash?”
“Well it wouldn’t be a great loss, and it definitely wouldn’t be an accident.”
It’s a good one.
Oh, I’d say it’s clearly more significant than a statistic. Definitely not a tragedy though.
A quote that hits like a purposeful steel toe boot obliterating unprotected genitals.
Ironically this is exactly what the 2A was built for. To off tyrants.
Unlimited AR-15s and Glocks to every minority.
This is unironically the same idea that started the Black Panthers. People noticed that peaceful unarmed protests were violently busted by the cops… But peaceful heavily armed protests were politely watched from across the street. So they started arming the people who were protesting, and those people were largely minorities.
Then logically one could infer that they would rather die than prevent the senseless violence.
EDIT: I’m not advocating for anyone’s death or praising what occurred. I just wanted to point to how moronic his stance was. Why would anyone say any death from gun violence is okay?
I’m guessing it’s more like they think it won’t happen to them. A lot right wingers are very shortsighted. They lack the imagination or empathy that if something happens to someone else, it can also happen to them.
We don’t know the politics of the shooter so far, but one thing the right seems to not understand is they have an absurdly low threshold for violence.
A right winger will assault if not kill someone for the most minor of “infractions” if they have a reason at all. Most of the time it’s just existing in a way they don’t like or “Walking while black”. They are bloodthirsty and just want to kill everyone who isn’t like them.
The left also has a threshold it’s just a lot higher. Some may even say too high, but the left doesn’t kill someone over the clothes they wear or even being directly insulted and threatened.
Most of the “violence” from the left is fucking property damage, but pushed far enough the left can and will defend themselves and their communities.
The key difference I’ve noticed between left wing vs right wing political discourse is that left wing politicians, pundits, and commentators very rarely rile up their base or audience with violent rhetoric, but right wingers do.
It would seem he put his beliefs to the test here and it looks awfully permanent too.
Give me liberty or give me death. Except some don’t want liberty either…
I wonder if his stance on that position changed at all in the 0.5 seconds between the hit and loss of consciousness.
I don’t imagine that would be enough time for someone to even process the various stimuli enough to realize that what just happened was a gunshot, tbh, let alone consider the implications of that.
Assuming the time wasn’t an exaggeration that is, I’m fairly squeamish so I don’t think I’ll be watching that video to see how long it really was.
It is pretty graphic so avoid if you’re not comfortable seeing that type of content. Otherwise, your guess is very accurate. It looked like he had maybe a half second of consciousness before lights out, but it was spent in a surprise that the mind did not comprehend.
“You will not get gun deaths to zero. You can significantly reduce them…by having more fathers in the home and more armed guards in front of schools.”
I fucking burst out laughing. This guy was a walking meme.
I’m not going to lose sleep over it.
Internet medical expert here.
Arteries spray, so must have hit a vein. That is survivable if you get fast medical attention to stop the bleeding. It’s dicey, but since it’s already been over an hour, he either has enough blood left at this point or he doesn’t.
Edit: nevermind
He’s dead. Trump confirmed it.
Odd place for a Babylon 5 reference, especially a Vorlon.
He lost consciousness instantly, indicating significant loss of blood pressure towards the brain, i.e., an artery was hit.
Secondly, not just hit but completely severed, explaining the massive non-spraying blood loss; similar to why a garden hose without the nozzle just flows. Only if it were a small enough puncture it would spray.
It has now been officially confirmed that he is in fact dead.
“god given rights” haha. Fucking clownery.
I just saw the clip too. Kirk fully sucked but I don’t know how you can watch that video and not see a fellow human dying
It is absolutely something to meditate on, that’s for sure.