I became a doomer. Humanity is a failed species. But everything that reduces suffering is worth doing. And everything that leaves the planet in a better state after we are gone is worth doing.
It sure is better than it would be if all the vegans and vegetarians were consuming meat. More importantly, fewer sentient animals that feel pain and fear have been abused and killed.
Killing is, so that’s sufficient to prove my point.
In 99% of other cases (meat produced via factory farming), yes other widespread abuses have also been proven. You’re engaging this discussion in bad faith by denying simple truths
I became a doomer. Humanity is a failed species. But everything that reduces suffering is worth doing. And everything that leaves the planet in a better state after we are gone is worth doing.
Reduce suffering? We should all be on board with that. Anyone saying these things should be assumed to be vegan.
Go vegan
Or eat your meat sustainable
But killing things unnecessarily is cruel. So, best to just avoid it. Added benefit is that it’s significantly better for the environment.
didn’t you try being vegan? the environment isn’t any better.
It sure is better than it would be if all the vegans and vegetarians were consuming meat. More importantly, fewer sentient animals that feel pain and fear have been abused and killed.
not only can this not be proven, it implies pain, fear, and abuse are inherent to animal husbandry, but they are not.
Killing is, so that’s sufficient to prove my point.
In 99% of other cases (meat produced via factory farming), yes other widespread abuses have also been proven. You’re engaging this discussion in bad faith by denying simple truths
obviously, killing is part of animal husbandry, but the rest is not inherent to it.
this can’t be proven
Sure can. Take average meat consumption per capita, multiply by number of folks who don’t eat meat. Bing bang boom. Again, bad faith
your accusation of bad faith is itself bad faith.
you can’t prove a counterfactual. what you’re doing is conjecture.
What’s better for the environment? Eating mass produced vegatables? Anything mass produced isn’t sustainable.
People have to eat. That’s the bottom line. What we eat and how we eat is important.
Good question. Yes, eating mass produced veggies is better for the environment (and less systemic cruelty) then eating meat.
Hello, fellow doomer::)