“American Gen Z” just for meme continuity
So while everyone keeps playing into this civil war shit nobody is noticing the same day Kirk was assassinated, Democrats in the Senate called for an investigation into links between big banks like JP Morgan and Epstein (including the fact that Epstein introduced Netenyahu to executives at JP Morgan), but Republicans blocked the release of the files again.
https://democrats-financialservices.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=413784
I have no idea what point you are trying to make that you think makes civil war less of an option with your comment.
That it’s republicans trying to distract and control the narrative once again
Its exceedingly obvious if a group of people got together and purged the government not a single person in America would care more than making a tik tok video saying they are really mad about it.
Too busy posting about Newsom’s Trump memes on lemmy because that’s definitely the way to fight Trump lol.
Still, lets not forget the Nepalese military “accepted” the interim PM meaning they likely allowed the uprising to occur in the first place because they want to cycle the civilian government.
Many 3rd world country civilian governments are completely worthless because they simply serve as the public scapegoat for the military to use. They magically gain a sense of independence from the alleged chain of command to the PM/President until the new party comes into the government. Let them do some stuff for some time and then rinse and repeat with the next generation uprising.
I know you said just for meme continuity, but this sentiment seems to be there opposite of what US Gen Z actually thinks. Really it’s the crocodile tears of controlled opposition in mainstream media.
People can think a lot of things. The difference is whether these thoughts are distilled into actions. Because they sure as heck was in Nepal.
I read that they made sure everyone was out of the building first. Not exactly the reckless violence that this post implies. It was humane and productive as far as I can see. I am not really sure killing Charlie Kirk will help things in the long run. (and no I’m not saying he wasn’t a huge piece of shit)
I am not really sure killing Charlie Kirk will help things in the long run.
You say that as if non-fascists had any choice in the matter. The even-more-extreme fascist who did it is directly opposed to “helping things” in the way you or I understand the term.
Unfortunately it probably won’t do anything, other than remind us that fascist infighting is still alive and well.
Conservative talking heads are hydras. One of the absolute worst for a long time was Rush Limbaugh. When he died, we celebrated, but he was just replaced by three more sycophant conservative heads.
I guess the difference is which side is supported by army
alt text: Two column meme.
American Gen Z
“Noo you can’t celebrate a Nazi’s death, that makes you just as bad as the Nazi! We must debate fascism in the marketplace of ideas! Stoning gays, lynching trans people and making kids watch public executions was just his opinion. Think of how bad this makes the left look!”
Nepali Gen Z
Burns down parliament and overthrows corrupt government
Burns down parliament and overthrows corrupt government
That totally never ended up totalitarian
I always see this argument, but honestly - if the government is already corrupt, what else can you do to change things? Sure it can go wrong, but these things happen when enough people see no other options for things to even have a chance to get better
It’s gone both ways historically.
“Mom, Dad! I just found out I’m 90% Napali!”
Yeah, toppling one of the most powerful empires in the world with one of the largest armies in the world is as easy as toppling a 3rd world country that has a severely weakened government.
Speaking of burning down parliaments, look up Reichstag fire and its consequences
Nazi this, nazi that. Everyone’s nazi these days. I’m tired of it
I am also tired of all these Nazis
Cool. I’m tired of hearing people talk about how my basic human rights should be stripped from me, and I should possibly be institutionalized against my will or killed. Yours sounds bad too, though.
Fuck the republican party and fuck the cartoonishly undemocratic system of the USA, but the former is not fascist by definition!
then help us get rid of the fascists
Pro tip, find and listen to the plethora of historians and other experts on the classification and comparison.
Spoilers, MAGA keep following both the nazi and classic Russian tactics for manipulation.
A lot.
Like, constantly. There are also enablers preventing opposition from gaining any ground.
Are they literal clones of Nazis? No, that’s impossible in a changing environment. That being said, they sure like to follow the nazi playbook in a way that sets alarms off in a way that would be pretty stupid to not have issues with.
At this point it’s “you can’t call them fascist/nazi until we are post-gas chamber,” and even then you will get people saying it’s not the same, for some stupidly specific yet mostly irrelevant differences.
So when the historians all cry “this is some nazi shit,” it might be disingenuous to compare it to more frivolous accusations.
Also there are a lot more valid historical comparisons, because the Nazis aren’t the only ones to do this shit, but they are a good example of the general shape.
Authnratorism is not nazism? They can be cartoonishly evil without being nazis, which they are not by definition
nazi and classic Russian
So nazi and commie at the same time? Dude, you’re living in an echo chamber
He named two fundamentally opposite ideologies as the same and you and me are being downvoted… I love the internet
It’s not convenient to admit because they’ve been used as boogiemen for so long, but the Bolsheviks and Nazis had a lot in common. If we can’t recognize the features that made these regimes so harmful then we won’t recognize them in our own society either, even as they grow stronger every day.
Bolsheviks and Nazis had a lot of common
Close enough, welcome back “red fascism” narrative. Are we going to wave tricolors while yelling “no to communism!” while hand-in-hand with fascists as seen historically?
Hyperboles aside, Bolsheviks and Nazis are polar opposites (with some superficial overlap). Bolsheviks were a revolutionary communist party on a mission to liberate workers and help other communist parties internationally, but it eventually fell into opportunism due to various factors such as underdevelopment, failure to achieve internationalism, Stalin being THE opportunist who later ordered for the old Bolshevik guard to be murdered, etc.
Nazis on the other hand were a direct response to existential capital crisis which stemmed from poor post-war economic conditions and worker militancy/uprisings (that aimed to topple the existing capitalist order, being inspired by USSR). Nazis were there to reinforce and protect capital while crushing the workers.
If anything, a more apt comparison would be between Liberal Democracies and Nazism, given how one directly leads to another once existential crisis hits and workers start to rebel, rhetorical similarities such as nationalism, and both having the exact same purpose which is to ensure capitalist domination over society.
Dude, the Bolsheviks were the party of Lenin! They definitionally, not a commendation from me, could have been communists strictly judged from their actions! The Communist Party of the Soviet Union was state capitalist!
Tho I agree that its super sad that the names of this two ideologies are substitutions cartoonishly evil
Everytime I see this I feel like it comes from a highschool dropout who thinks they have it worse or were born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Fuck off. I’m not sorry if the people pointing out the writing on the wall annoys you.
OP doesn’t necessarily supports the trampers, he is just pointing out that republicans despite being cartoonishly evil are definitionally not nazis
Sure, they’re not part of the German National Socialist party, but their policies sure rhyme with them.
…are you okay with the dems being called communists because they are somewhat left to the reps? After all words don’t mean anything
I’m completely fine with calling the republican party and literally every single person who voted for Trump a fascist.
I’m also completely fine with saying “execute fascists”
But I hate using the term Nazi to describe fascists (unless they are literal self-ascribed neo-nazi’s)
It’s needlessly inflammatory, technically incorrect and has the optics of “everyone I don’t like is Hitler” (it’s kinda juvenile tbh).
Based off Eco’s 14 traits of fascism, Trump and Kirk were full blown fascists.
That doesn’t make them Nazi’s though.
Calling things cartoonishly evil doesn’t have the same gravitas, despite being more definitionally accurate
