Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.

Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.

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  • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
    11·
    1 day ago

    I can accept that this current government in the USA is packed with the absolute most morally bankrupt people in America, but I just can’t conceive of the idea that 52% of Americans are the same.

    What’s that in adults like 110 million? I’m not sure how many kids they have over there.

    There just isn’t any chance that all those people are monsters too and you ain’t had a civil war. It seems more likely that most Americans have been propagandised by the media and they just only see what they want to see. I doubt every republican voter is watching the stuff we see as let’s be frank we’re likely all terminally online and more connected than they’re and it ain’t even my county.

    Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.

    As say this as in the UK I know people that believe some crazy stuff about illegal immigrants (this term sucks and is a non issue) which has them wanting to kick them out and stuff but these people are not like that and get on with people from other countries but right now they’re blinded by the complete bombardment of that kind of content.

    Maybe I’m naive, but I feel unlikely as I’m usually incredibly cynical.

    • beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      77,302,580 Americans voted for Trump out of a total of 340,865,045 individuals. That makes the total number of Americans who wanted some part of what’s going on strongly enough to take some action is roughly 23%. 75 million Americans voted for Harris and 37 million Americans were registered, but did not vote which is roughly 33%.

      Only 55% of the country is registered to vote so it’s really hard to tell what the 45% of Americans who aren’t registered feel politically, but it’s probably safe to assume if they can’t be bothered to vote, they’re probably not down for the civil war remix.

      Of the 23% who voted conservative in 2024, not all of them hold far right beliefs. It’s hard to say what fraction of that population would fall on the far right, especially because Trumpism itself holds some far right ideology. Even assuming half of all republican voters are ready and willing to engage in a civil war, that’s only 35 million people or 11% of the population.

      They’re really loud online and currently have control of the government, but there really aren’t that many of them. There are far more people who don’t care, centrists, democrats, and leftists.

    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
      6·
      1 day ago

      Perhaps they only ever interact with other republicans cause surely if they hated the democrats that much then there would be shootings in Walmart everyday.

      I’m told there were about 500 mass shootings (4 or more people) last year. So we’re pretty close.

      And I don’t think it’s 52%. A lot of people don’t vote or update their voter records. But there does seem to be a frothy core that’s getting high on hating people.

      I think conservatives are more insular, too. If you live in a city and actually see and interact with other kinds of people, its harder to hate them as monsters.

    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      1 day ago

      It’s more like 1/3 because 1/3 of Americans don’t vote. Also, that 1/3 that votes Republican is the most politically uninformed 1/3. And many of them don’t actually know what the people they vote for believe, they just vote R because they always have.

      • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        3·
        1 day ago

        I tried to find a study I read a year or two ago about how informed voters were. It kind of shocked me that it was really close between the Rs and the Ds. Neither voter was particularly well-informed, just tribal.

        • MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip
          3·
          15 hours ago

          I went looking out of curiosity, and the first study my search turned up found:

          We have established and replicated a clear experimental effect in which subjects randomly treated with political information shift their preferences toward the Democratic Party. We draw the conclusion that, in contrast to previous observational work, the current deficit of political knowledge in the electorate actually benefits the Republican Party.

          Fowler, A., & Margolis, M. (2014). The political consequences of uninformed voters. Electoral Studies, Volume 34, 2014, 100-110. [https://doi.org/10.1016/j.electstud.2013.09.009]

          I’m not trying to refute your statement or the assertion that you saw the study you describe; I just found this bit interesting and worth adding here.

    • ceoofanarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      1 day ago

      there is no reason to give the majority of those people the benefit of the doubt. Humans can have large groups with oppressive opinions. A large segment of Germans supported the nazi’s, a large section of Israel thinks gaza isn’t being destroyed harshly enough and a large sections of americans currently believe in massive oppression.