Well, that’s clearly not the electoral environment we live in.
If you want to win office, you do actually have to communicate a positive idea of the future. Obama didn’t win by saying, “I’m gonna continue basically all of George W. Bush’s policies”. Even though that’s what he actually did, he still had to campaign on something a little more marketable than, “I’m not the other guy”.
Obama was way more effective at diplomacy than Bush, he managed to recover us from the 2008 financial crises, he introduced the 72 hour holding limitations for the ICE, and he effectively led the 58 DNC and 2 IND to pass Medicaid Expansion for tens of millions of Americans in the breif 60-ish day timeframe before the Republicans gained a 41st seat in special election.
To say Obama was a continuation of Bush is akin to brain damage which prevents you from remembering what sort of president Bush was.
And he renewed the PATRIOT act, continued to use GITMO for illegal detention, and posthumously decided any male civilians killed by his drone strikes were actually combatants for reasons of because we want them to be.
The real brain damage is pretending that a few differences completely negate the absolute mass of similarities and continuity between the two administrations.
And Obama could have tried to prosecute Bush for that! He chose not to. He chose to double down in Afghanistan. His administration gave a shiny liberal seal of approval to all the authoritarian advances made by Bush, rather than dismantle it. And now we have Trump taking advantage of those very same policies!
There is no end to the number of people who could have tried to prosecute Bush, but placing the responsibility on their direct political rivals is just idiocy. No politician should be pursuing the imprisonment or trial of their competitors, even if you agree that the competitor did commit horrible crimes, it should be somebody else’s responsibility.
The DOJ falls under the remit of the executive. If a former president were to be charged for their crimes, the sitting president would necessarily be involved.
I suppose a charge could come from UN court of justice and ha lol like our leaders would ever allow that precedent to get set
Idk what to tell you if you are just now realizing that voters are uninformed. People hate politics. And people know that their quality of life has been deteriorating rapidly for the past 5 years. Democrats said that they weren’t going to change anything, Trump said he was going to change EVERYTHING. That same dynamic is happening all across the world right now, and liberals refuse to realize that no one is buying what they are selling.
“vote for us, we aren’t outright fascists” is clearly not a winning strategy, but liberals continue to use the same playbook. Just look at Keir Starmer and Macron and tell me that this is a purely American problem.
The quality of life has been declining since 2016 but it had a brief uptick for a couple years in 2021.
I’m not holding my breath for the progressives to put their dick away and form a party or put candidates up so I’ll keep backing the non-GOP party that has a chance.
Both sidesing this is the laziest of arguments.
The democrats should have been able to run a half empty can of rotten crab juice against Trump and win.
Instead I’m here questioning the average intelligence of voting age Americans and wondering how long the education system has been failing us.
Well, that’s clearly not the electoral environment we live in.
If you want to win office, you do actually have to communicate a positive idea of the future. Obama didn’t win by saying, “I’m gonna continue basically all of George W. Bush’s policies”. Even though that’s what he actually did, he still had to campaign on something a little more marketable than, “I’m not the other guy”.
Obama was way more effective at diplomacy than Bush, he managed to recover us from the 2008 financial crises, he introduced the 72 hour holding limitations for the ICE, and he effectively led the 58 DNC and 2 IND to pass Medicaid Expansion for tens of millions of Americans in the breif 60-ish day timeframe before the Republicans gained a 41st seat in special election.
To say Obama was a continuation of Bush is akin to brain damage which prevents you from remembering what sort of president Bush was.
And he renewed the PATRIOT act, continued to use GITMO for illegal detention, and posthumously decided any male civilians killed by his drone strikes were actually combatants for reasons of because we want them to be.
The real brain damage is pretending that a few differences completely negate the absolute mass of similarities and continuity between the two administrations.
“A few differences” to the admin that fucking manufactured evidence to justify a full scale invasion of Iraq to the benefit of Exxon fucking Mobil.
And Obama could have tried to prosecute Bush for that! He chose not to. He chose to double down in Afghanistan. His administration gave a shiny liberal seal of approval to all the authoritarian advances made by Bush, rather than dismantle it. And now we have Trump taking advantage of those very same policies!
There is no end to the number of people who could have tried to prosecute Bush, but placing the responsibility on their direct political rivals is just idiocy. No politician should be pursuing the imprisonment or trial of their competitors, even if you agree that the competitor did commit horrible crimes, it should be somebody else’s responsibility.
Obama did not pardon the Bush Admin.
The DOJ falls under the remit of the executive. If a former president were to be charged for their crimes, the sitting president would necessarily be involved.
I suppose a charge could come from UN court of justice and ha lol like our leaders would ever allow that precedent to get set
Idk what to tell you if you are just now realizing that voters are uninformed. People hate politics. And people know that their quality of life has been deteriorating rapidly for the past 5 years. Democrats said that they weren’t going to change anything, Trump said he was going to change EVERYTHING. That same dynamic is happening all across the world right now, and liberals refuse to realize that no one is buying what they are selling.
“vote for us, we aren’t outright fascists” is clearly not a winning strategy, but liberals continue to use the same playbook. Just look at Keir Starmer and Macron and tell me that this is a purely American problem.
The quality of life has been declining since 2016 but it had a brief uptick for a couple years in 2021.
I’m not holding my breath for the progressives to put their dick away and form a party or put candidates up so I’ll keep backing the non-GOP party that has a chance.
Sure, but they shouldn’t have actually tried to