• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    It reminds me of a meme I recently saw of a preacher in front of a bunch of Indians, and he says “Before we came, you worshipped the SUN!”

    And one of the Indians says “Dude, the sun is real.”

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      2 days ago

      He has a point. It’s ironic that the only piece of “evidence” most religions have is a book written by humans.

      Any belief in the sun/moon/stars/whatever… At least you can point and say, there it is.

      But Christianity is normal and not crazy at all, and believing in Ra is the crazy thing… Sure. Yeah.

      I think it’s all nuts. But whatever.

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        22 hours ago

        The only piece of evidence we have for a lot of things is a book written by humans

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          7 hours ago

          a lot of things.

          🤔

          Science doesn’t work that way. There’s provable and repeatable experiments and proofs that you can independently verify.

          Last time I checked most things that aren’t metaphysical (like philosophy), have some relationship with science, and therefore, only requires that you go through the motions to prove it yourself by creating your own reproduction of an test/experiment/proof…

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            7 hours ago

            Science only works for scientific claims. It cannot prove that my great grandfather was in a prisoner of war camp.

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        2 days ago

        the only piece of “evidence” most religions have is a book written by humans.

        Evangelism typically involves more than just a book. There’s inevitably some amount of mysticism - faith healing, weather events that turn the tide of a pitched battle, communing with the dead, miraculous survival stories, straight up stage magic.

        Any belief in the sun/moon/stars/whatever… At least you can point and say, there it is.

        There’s inevitably some kind of reverse causation in these faiths. Humans are constantly asserting they can manipulate the heavens with ritual and sacrifice.

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          1 day ago

          You won’t find me coming to the defense of either large structured religions nor to the defense of the sun god, or his celestial counterparts.

          It’s all Hocus pokus.

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          For less insane religions and catholicism, they have centuries of philosophy and reinterpretation to fit new societal contexts to look back on.