Democrats in the Senate rejected a House GOP proposal to keep funds flowing through Nov. 21, while Republicans scuttled a competing Democratic bill with health care provisions.
While normally such a government shutdown is disastrous, with all the crazy ICE stuff and all the cuts to mandatory services it now it seems like the best course of action and I hope the democrats keep it up (fat chance of that)
I fully expect the spinless Democratic leadership to bail the fascist Republicans out yet again.
They already fucked up by even offering a compromised solution in my opinion. Why keep giving these incompetent fascist slack when they clearly want to Mike Pence themselves.
I genuinely don’t know the answer to that question, but if the answer is “no,” then I think we’ve uncovered a significant clue. Personally I feel like a huge part of the top Democrats’ horrifying fecklessness on all of these type of issues is that, at the end of the day, they’ll be fine, and you can sometime divine their priorities by seeing what does make them start sweating and working hard to avoid.
More or less as soon as I typed it I realized, you know what, that’s a stupid question, I would be very very surprised if they don’t get paid.
I still feel like the fact that it impacts their workplace directly, is the reason they freak the fuck out about it and start actually trying, in a way they usually don’t when someone else is getting kidnapped to an ICE facility or losing their workplace or home or family or life.
While normally such a government shutdown is disastrous, with all the crazy ICE stuff and all the cuts to mandatory services it now it seems like the best course of action and I hope the democrats keep it up (fat chance of that)
I fully expect the spinless Democratic leadership to bail the fascist Republicans out yet again.
They already fucked up by even offering a compromised solution in my opinion. Why keep giving these incompetent fascist slack when they clearly want to Mike Pence themselves.
Does congress still get paid during a shutdown?
I genuinely don’t know the answer to that question, but if the answer is “no,” then I think we’ve uncovered a significant clue. Personally I feel like a huge part of the top Democrats’ horrifying fecklessness on all of these type of issues is that, at the end of the day, they’ll be fine, and you can sometime divine their priorities by seeing what does make them start sweating and working hard to avoid.
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S6-C1-1/ALDE_00001044/
It’s in the Constitution that they get paid.
Lol, of course they still get paid!
More or less as soon as I typed it I realized, you know what, that’s a stupid question, I would be very very surprised if they don’t get paid.
I still feel like the fact that it impacts their workplace directly, is the reason they freak the fuck out about it and start actually trying, in a way they usually don’t when someone else is getting kidnapped to an ICE facility or losing their workplace or home or family or life.
Lisa Murkowski is very concerned.
I’m interested to hear what Susan Collins has to say.
I’m not.
Agreed, a shutdown is necessary and the logical next step for a real opposition party.
Good point. If the National Guard no longer gets paid, how long will they continue to invade our cities?
I’m concerned that ICE would continue doing their shit simply for the love of the game.