edit: the guy to our guy

  • cub Gucci@lemmy.todayEnglish
    111·
    1 day ago

    TBH I think misogyny is much more deeply rooted in society than transphobia.

    And here’s the controversial take that’ll bring me a lot of hate: the root of transness itself is somewhere between misogyny and misandry. Our generation can’t defeat that, but we can target transphobia and hope that our children will come for misogyny and misandry 💪💪💪

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPMEnglish
      22·
      1 day ago

      the root of transness itself is somewhere between misogyny and misandry

      That is the worst possible way you could say that. Even if you think people embracing gender norms for euphoria unintentionally reinforces harmful divisions, that isn’t something inherent to transness itself. We can have gender without mistreating people for it; it’s just an ongoing struggle to minimize mistreating people.

    • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
      12·
      1 day ago

      the root of transness itself is somewhere between misogyny and misandry.

      What makes you feel that way? How does it jibe with people who reject both male and female identities, or who embrace both?

  • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    57·
    2 days ago

    damn this is gold. that guy’s a genius. he might have weird views but at least they’re consistent and well thought-through (edit: except the “women are all stupid” part).

    i also really cackled at the “damn, cheese, gender, what else do they deny themselves?” as if a gender is something you’re enjoying. really brightens my day that some people see it that way so instinctively.

    • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
      15·
      1 day ago

      You’ve got me thinking about Pride and Prejudice and how Darcy’s flavor of misogyny could be interpreted as hatred of patriarchal limitations on the social class “women” rather than a hatred of what women actually are. That is, he hates the behavior women act out as part of a performance they’ve been forced into, but he doesn’t fully think through the concept of systemic oppression because he has no educational background to support that level of introspection, and so he’s left blaming women. I’m sure there’s probably quite a lot of writing on that angle already, but it’s the first time it’s ever occurred to me.

      • juliebean@lemmy.zipEnglish
        471·
        2 days ago

        not sure which part is confusing you, but i’d be happy to explain.

        • trans-inclusive radical misogyny would be a tongue in cheek term made up for our guys particular unusual views around gender. he clearly hates women, and doesn’t trust them in any positions of authority, but this misogyny extends equally to trans women rather than trans men. usually, these days, this kind of misogyny would be paired with a hatred, fear, and denial of the identities of trans people.
        • blursed is a portmanteau of “blessed” and “cursed”. it is essentially a way of saying something has both good and bad elements, usually ones which contrast in a surprising way.
        • terf is an acronym that stands for “trans exclusive radical feminism”, it is essentially a group of people who make a huge deal out of policing others gender identity and expression, especially those of trans women, under the pretense of caring about women. they have some roots in the ‘radical feminism’ of decades ago, but nowadays align much more strongly with the religious right, as hating trans people is their sole or primary political interest.
          • Doctor MoodMood@lemmy.mlEnglish
            51·
            23 hours ago

            Who exactly are these “you guys” you’re referring to? Do you not support equal rights for trans people?

              • cally [he/they]@pawb.socialEnglish
                8·
                22 hours ago

                Rating: 3/10

                Low-tier rage-bait. It confused me more than it angered me.

                Next time, try writing your distasteful replies in a more comprehensible way. I partially understood what you were striving for; however, rage-bait should be easier to read, so that the reader can know what exactly to get mad at.

                Alas, you still managed to waste the reader’s time, which is why you get a 3/10 rating. Thanksn’t.

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.orgEnglish
    871·
    2 days ago

    Amazing. On the surface everything I read is bigotry and disdain, but I can’t help liking the guy. At the very least he seems to have the consistency to choose his very own flavor of bigotry.

    Not humor though; as far as I understand OOP he’s 100% serious. Maybe one of those people that are kinda half aware that they’re being an asshole just for conversation.

    • stray@pawb.socialEnglish
      14·
      1 day ago

      He sounds pretty autistic, and I mean that somewhat affectionately and not at all as an insult. His manner of thinking feels personally familiar to me.

      Say we lived in a society that let dogs vote. You wouldn’t have to hate dogs to be real about the fact that they’re not our intellectual equals and to be frustrated with a system that gives them decision power that affects everyone in society. And you’d be even more frustrated when people around you say you’re a bad person for being dog-phobic.

      I think that’s the internal world he’s living in, based on a series of false premises that he genuinely believes to be true. I think that if these false facts were corrected then his conclusions would naturally improve. It’s how it worked for me.

  • Eiri@lemmy.caEnglish
    971·
    2 days ago

    If we must have rude people, I want more of that guy among them.

  • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlMEnglish
    58·
    2 days ago

    If the story is true, and my guess is that is and based in a Spanish speaking country, I think I kinda love the guy. Like a living Wholesome Redneck meme.

    • faythofdragons@slrpnk.netEnglish
      30·
      2 days ago

      Honestly, having worked in kitchens, this is sorta just how chefs are. You really need an oversized ego to run a kitchen well, and you have to be a little crazy to pull it off. They’re somehow either the best or worst people in the world, and sometimes you get a Guy like OP’s who is both simultaneously.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.orgEnglish
      26·
      2 days ago

      Couldn’t it also be that the guy exists, but the demand for stories about him is larger than him, so OOP chose to cater to that demand?

      I like the “accidentally scared a 17yo out of an eating disorder” though, you can’t make that shit up.

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        71·
        2 days ago

        “accidentally scared a 17yo out of an eating disorder” though, you can’t make that shit up.

        well actually, that’s what they tried to do back when my parents were in school. they would force-feed them if they didn’t eat up. it was disgusting.

        • missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          23·
          2 days ago

          I don’t know the details, so I could be out of line, but you sometimes do have to force severe anorexia patients to eat. you can straight up die from it. and once you’re anorexic for long enough, your body stops feeling hungry at appropriate times, so you have to make yourself eat X number of calories on a schedule for a few months during refeeding.

          t. recovered anorexic who narrowly avoided inpatient.

          • lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            15·
            1 day ago

            Recovered anorexic who did inpatient: 100% + your body will straight up reject food at a certain point. The only way to recover is literally to force feed yourself even if you throw it up, you basically reteach your body how much it needs to consume

            • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
              1·
              1 day ago

              i was also told that milk consumption helps tremendously because it goes down easily, less chance of throwing it up, is digested rather well, and has a lot of calories.

              is that correct?