• nialv7@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    UK, France, and now Germany. The far-right really is winning everywhere huh… What can we do? Is there still hope?

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      10 hours ago

      Yeah, we take it to the source: Russian propaganda should be completely cut off from the rest of the internet.

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        The source of fascism is Europe itself, not Russia. We literally invented fascism, first in Italy, then Germany and finally allowed it to live unbothered in Spain.

        Russian media was censored already what, two years ago? And the far right keeps exploding in popularity. Europe can’t keep blaming the Russians for every bad thing happening in the continent, we have a responsibility in fighting fascism and waving hands saying it’s somebody else’s fault isn’t going to solve it.

        Racism, misogyny, islamophobia and the total loss of faith in the current system are the main reasons for far-right vote. Europe has been in an economic crisis since 2008, and electing socdems or christiandemocrats has led to the exact same policy everywhere for the past 17 years: austerity, austerity, and more austerity. Kid Starver in England, supposed labour party, enacts policy as far-right as the far-right government in Finland, both countries driving hundreds of thousands of people into poverty and austerity.

        What we need to fight fascism in Europe is what worked last time: less hand-waving, and more worker organizing. Whether you like or dislike the anarchists from the CNT in Spain, or the communists from the CPSU in the east, they were the only ones who meaningfully fought, and in the latter case ultimately defeated fascism. Organize, unionize, join local worker struggles, push for international worker solidarity with Palestine.

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          People dont like this (correct) take because it doesn’t allow them to blame their countries’ problems on foreigners.

          “Is it our withered social systems, our sickly education, our ever-evasive retirement age, ballooning wealth inequality, crumbling infrastructure, or corrupt government that is causing our descent into fascism? No… it is because of people’s innate stupidity and Ruzzian propaganda”

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      11 hours ago

      idk, honestly. usually this kind of tribalism burns itself out after a World War and a bunch of atrocities. there’s a global empathy shortage… too much hate and too little love.

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        usually this kind of tribalism burns itself out after a World War and a bunch of atrocities. there’s a global empathy shortage… too much hate and too little love.

        It’s the understandable pent up anger because of failed promises by ruling elites, hiding behind fake smiles and platitudes, who are supposed to be representative of the people. The older I get, the less the Star Wars Prequel becomes meesa Jar Jar-y. Lucas touched on toxic masculinity and the lack of positive male role models, and I think he saw something in history that none of us have twenty years ago, on how toxic masculinity influences real politics. It’s obvious now how fascism has connection to toxic masculinity, but I think only few saw it at the time.

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      The only time nazis go down is when they are put down. The free world needs strength to do what’s necessary and avoid the paradox of tolerance.

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            5 hours ago

            Please don’t insult the memory of my ancestors with your ignorance. I’m a Spaniard, and our civil war against fascism in 1936-1939 was mainly fought by anarchists and communists using Soviet-made weapons, airplanes and tanks

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              5 hours ago

              yes your single example definitely justifies “usually” lmao go tour a gulag or smt tankie

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                Single example? 80% of Nazi soldiers died in the Eastern Front against the Soviets. Communist China kicked out fascist Japan from the mainland through unthinkable armed struggle. Communist Cubans kicked out fascist dictator Batista from the island. Tell me now about my single examples. You don’t have to support each of those movements to see the historical fact: communists and anarchists are historically the first and most successful to fight fascism. Please provide counterexamples of capitalist countries or movements fighting against fascism and winning, until then stop spitting on the memory of the antifascist partisans in Spain and Italy.

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                    “Tankie is when you support the Spanish republicans in their antifascist struggles” has to be the dumbest take ngl. You could just say you can’t provide any examples because history isn’t on your side.