How is that a “premium” or “flagship” phone, beyond price? I mean, midrange, sure. Mid-upper, maybe. Flaghsip… nnnnaah.
I get it, man, if you’re not monetizing data you have to charge full price for the hardware, particularly on small runs. You don’t need to misrepresent the spec to make that case. It’s a tradeoff.
It is premium in a way trump phone is premium to some people, but for smart people. People who don’t see privacy as a tradeoff and tech specs as be all, end all requirement.
People forget this is a miniaturized advanced personal computer that fits in your pocket with lots of extra features. Plus, there’s a lot of work behind the software.
Not to mention, they probably don’t benefit from having the same manufacturing scale and power as Samsung, Google, or Apple. Or the same deals for parts.
The problem is, if a newcomer gets on the market to sell a car and doesn’t benefit from the scale of the other mass manufacturers, they unfortunately have no choice but to sell at a high price.
That’s why buying local is often more expensive. But in the end, I think it’s worth it for everybody for many reasons.
It is absolutely insane the amount of computing you can buy these days for 300 bucks in the form factor of half a packet of cigarrettes. Screw jetpacks, man, that’s some future tech.
I’m just frustrated with the framing here. If they think they want to go after premium clients with tons of disposable income they should be less ashamed of being overpriced and go for broke. Look at boutique PC handheld manufacturers. They’re making computers to order for 2000+ bucks now with zero shame and doing alright.
Oh, you want to cram a AI MAX+ 395 in a shell that makes no sense for a AI-focused productivity APU and use it to play AAA games poorly? We got you, bro. It’ll be 2.5 grand and we’ll get back to you in a year or so. Here’s our Indiegogo.
Samsung is out there selling foldables in that price range that will all be broken in two years and everyone is cool with it. Apple and Samsung both make dumbed-down phones just to make them look thin and charge premium money for them. Embrace the consumerism, man.
Theres a difference between ‘premium’ and ‘flagship’. The price alone is enough to call it premium (with some asterisks). But its just not flagship hardware. The SOC is more than enough for my needs. But performancewise its somewhere near a 3,5 year old flagship Snapdragon and is itself 2 years old. Also if you give a fuck about these specs because of gaming/emulation or misusing(loaded statement i know)it as a desktop substitute Mediatek SOCs still lag behind in support/compatibility to Qualcomm.
But then there are some unpremium telltales like that third backside macro camera with undisclosed megapixels. That instantly tells me that it probably sports a 2mp unuseable tiny sensor. Its only there to trick the consumer in believing that its more premium then it is. Its not an useful tele like on a Iphone Pro but the design suggest it.
They also dont specify what kind of USB connection they provide. So its most likely USB 2.0 with no displayout.
Other things on their official spec sheet:
_Primary camera aperture | 2 Megapixel _ its just typo tbf but still, lmao. Headphones jack | TYPE-C DAC digital headphone Just ‘no’ would be more honest but i just wouldnt mention it at all and everybody who cares gets it.
I’m all in with MudMans assertion that they should just own it instead of tiptoeing around the truth. As he said its a solid device with enough unique selling points. But sadly it feels(!) like they try to deceive me here and there with their messaging. Which is soooo unnecessary.
Edit: It kinda suggests to me(!) that it probably is a badge engineered phone of a chinese company which provides semi customizeable barebone devices. Just a guess by me(!). But that would be unpremium as fuck. And dont get at me how stupid that whole pReMiuM talk is. I’m fully aware of that. But thats the bullshit you need to deal with if you start using these terms. I didnt start it.
That’s a wrong misconception. Mediatek produces Socs at all performance level. Their dimensity 9000 series chips can rival and even surpass snapdragon 8 series chipset especially in GPU performance.
The dimensity 8400-max has superb power efficiency compared to most chipsets.
How is that a “premium” or “flagship” phone, beyond price? I mean, midrange, sure. Mid-upper, maybe. Flaghsip… nnnnaah.
I get it, man, if you’re not monetizing data you have to charge full price for the hardware, particularly on small runs. You don’t need to misrepresent the spec to make that case. It’s a tradeoff.
It is premium in a way trump phone is premium to some people, but for smart people. People who don’t see privacy as a tradeoff and tech specs as be all, end all requirement.
People forget this is a miniaturized advanced personal computer that fits in your pocket with lots of extra features. Plus, there’s a lot of work behind the software.
Not to mention, they probably don’t benefit from having the same manufacturing scale and power as Samsung, Google, or Apple. Or the same deals for parts.
So is a $200 phone, but that doesn’t mean $1200 would be a good price for it.
Modern cars are a marvel of engineering, but I still wouldn’t spend $500,000 on a Toyota Corolla.
The problem is, if a newcomer gets on the market to sell a car and doesn’t benefit from the scale of the other mass manufacturers, they unfortunately have no choice but to sell at a high price.
That’s why buying local is often more expensive. But in the end, I think it’s worth it for everybody for many reasons.
It is absolutely insane the amount of computing you can buy these days for 300 bucks in the form factor of half a packet of cigarrettes. Screw jetpacks, man, that’s some future tech.
I’m just frustrated with the framing here. If they think they want to go after premium clients with tons of disposable income they should be less ashamed of being overpriced and go for broke. Look at boutique PC handheld manufacturers. They’re making computers to order for 2000+ bucks now with zero shame and doing alright.
Oh, you want to cram a AI MAX+ 395 in a shell that makes no sense for a AI-focused productivity APU and use it to play AAA games poorly? We got you, bro. It’ll be 2.5 grand and we’ll get back to you in a year or so. Here’s our Indiegogo.
Samsung is out there selling foldables in that price range that will all be broken in two years and everyone is cool with it. Apple and Samsung both make dumbed-down phones just to make them look thin and charge premium money for them. Embrace the consumerism, man.
But it isn’t future tech it’s current tech even kind of dated phones have been out for decades at this point.
What even constitutes a “premium” phone these days? Like, what specific features other than price?
Theres a difference between ‘premium’ and ‘flagship’. The price alone is enough to call it premium (with some asterisks). But its just not flagship hardware. The SOC is more than enough for my needs. But performancewise its somewhere near a 3,5 year old flagship Snapdragon and is itself 2 years old. Also if you give a fuck about these specs because of gaming/emulation or misusing(loaded statement i know)it as a desktop substitute Mediatek SOCs still lag behind in support/compatibility to Qualcomm.
But then there are some unpremium telltales like that third backside macro camera with undisclosed megapixels. That instantly tells me that it probably sports a 2mp unuseable tiny sensor. Its only there to trick the consumer in believing that its more premium then it is. Its not an useful tele like on a Iphone Pro but the design suggest it.
They also dont specify what kind of USB connection they provide. So its most likely USB 2.0 with no displayout. Other things on their official spec sheet:
_Primary camera aperture | 2 Megapixel _ its just typo tbf but still, lmao.
Headphones jack | TYPE-C DAC digital headphone Just ‘no’ would be more honest but i just wouldnt mention it at all and everybody who cares gets it.
I’m all in with MudMans assertion that they should just own it instead of tiptoeing around the truth. As he said its a solid device with enough unique selling points. But sadly it feels(!) like they try to deceive me here and there with their messaging. Which is soooo unnecessary.
Edit: It kinda suggests to me(!) that it probably is a badge engineered phone of a chinese company which provides semi customizeable barebone devices. Just a guess by me(!). But that would be unpremium as fuck. And dont get at me how stupid that whole pReMiuM talk is. I’m fully aware of that. But thats the bullshit you need to deal with if you start using these terms. I didnt start it.
Performance.
Which Mediatek ain’t.
That’s a wrong misconception. Mediatek produces Socs at all performance level. Their dimensity 9000 series chips can rival and even surpass snapdragon 8 series chipset especially in GPU performance.
The dimensity 8400-max has superb power efficiency compared to most chipsets.
People don’t forget any of that, they just don’t care.