Is this not the reason the second amendment exists? Regards An Australian Edit: I’m not advocating for violence. More so “a well regulated militia” which could be established by protesters or Democratic Governors for genuine self defence.

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    I believe open carry is illegal here in Illinois.

    The meta I’ve heard is also that, if you’re gonna brandish or draw a gun, you’d better be prepared to kill with it. I’m not prepared to die shooting cops so I don’t feel like carrying. In the confusion of a gun fight I don’t think I’d have much to add by shooting anyone

    Like if someone told me that the 2nd amendment just causes more shootings and doesn’t actually protect people on average I’d say yeah…

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      The meta I’ve heard is also that, if you’re gonna brandish or draw a gun, you’d better be prepared to kill with it.

      That’s dumb as fuck.

      Glad I stopped trying to find logic in the average person.

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        17 days ago

        You say that, but my father, when I was I growing up, told me that the only thing you’re supposed to aim a gun at is something you want to destroy.

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          Aiming a gun isn’t the same as brandishing or drawing it.

          Maybe your father should’ve spent less time teaching you about guns and more time helping you with your English homework.

          Glad I stopped trying to find logic in the average person.

          Thanks for reinforcing this.

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            Aiming a gun isn’t the same as brandishing or drawing it.

            I think it’s a distinction without a difference when you’re in a situation where both parties have firearms (and one party has the backing of the state and a monopoly on violence).

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            Please demonstrate this by aiming your gun at a cop and arguing that you weren’t brandishing with however many brand new holes.

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              Are you fucking stupid?

              Aiming a gun at a cop is significantly worse than brandishing. Why would I try to argue what you’re saying unless I’m an idiot?

              Oh, wait a minute. Gotta tap the sign.

              Glad I stopped trying to find logic in the average person.

              Also ignored. I know I won’t be able to tolerate any more drivel from someone like you.

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                In colorado last month, a teen was shot dead by police for simply saying he was going to shoot up a business. No fire arm was involved on his part. Just an aggrevated teen having a mental health crisis. The mental health crisis team didnt even get a chance to show up. The cops killed the kid within 5 minutes of getting there.

                The cops here dont give a fuck about the distinction. They are trained to shoot to kill once they feel scared in america. By the IDF.