As a follower of Jesus Christ, I’m disappointed you think that. I firmly believe there’s a religion for everyone on this planet. And that hatred of religion as a concept can easily lead to dismissing foreign cultures’ spiritual practices.
Why would you center your life around something that neither you, not any single person in the past 2000+ years has been able to verify or prove in even the most basic fashion?
Why should I care about truth? I think kindness and wisdom are more important for making good decisions. Sure, truth has its place, like with medical decisions and climate policy. But it doesn’t need to infect every aspect of our lives. I don’t care about truth when I go to the movies and watch a red metal man punch a big purple man.
Yes, yes, I already said truth is good for medical decisions. I just don’t think it needs to be crammed into every aspect of our lives. Sometimes people just want a break from truth.
You think I’m unable to enjoy fiction? I’m just able to tell the difference between fiction and reality. An ability that I believe is REALLY fucking important.
Well there you go, you don’t care about truth all the time, you have time in your life to set truth aside and enjoy fantasy. You just hadn’t realised it until I pointed it out.
. And that hatred of religion as a concept can easily lead to dismissing foreign cultures’ spiritual practices
Yes, I’m going to dismiss foreign culture religion, just like I dismiss my culture’s religions. They’re not special just because they’re not from here, it’s still the same humans
Worshipping people 2 thousand years dead is stupid.
And if you found out the natives of the land you live on were teaching religion to their children, would you support the government kidnapping the children and putting them with white families to learn science and writing and “civilised manners”? That’s the kind of actual historical event I’m concerned about happening when religious knowledge is valued less than white people’s idea of academic knowledge.
Religious knowledge is explicitly less valuable than academic knowledge.
I’m not talking about christian, white people’s idea of manners and civilization. That is still awful. Instead of kidnapping, that’s what public schools should be for, teaching reading, writing, and science.
Those kidnappings were genocide. I advocate for religion to be suppressed, especially the sexist and racist ones(but not only), not for all forms of culture and tradition to be suppressed.
Well I will describe a religious belief I hold to you, and I’m eager to hear what you think of it.
Burning fossil fuels is a sin. We’re not supposed to dig them out of the ground and burn them. When fossil fuels are burned, they react and turn to greenhouse gases, which warm the planet and bring natural disasters. And because Elohim is a god of great wrath, the disasters do not just harm those who sinned, but everyone, and disproportionately the poorest who don’t have the resources to survive natural disaster. To find peace with the world around us, we must stop fossil fuel emissions and sacrifice our billionaires to Elohim upon a ritual pyre.
A great example on why religious knowledge is less valuable than scientific knowledge. The belief that the issues are that simple and blocks understanding of why it happens and how to prevent similar situations from recurring.
More however, the god parts have no value. If you insert science into religion, it’s still science. The science information should be extracted from the religious knowledge, and the less valuable religious parts discarded.
If you insert science into religion, it’s still science
And all religions have science in them. Pacific Islanders know things about wayfaring and wave dynamics that physicists are just now discovering. Colonisers in Australia spoiled the environment by disregarding indigenous conservation practices. Buddhists have been teaching western psychologists about the uses of meditation for the past two decades. The Haudenosaunee taught Karl Marx’s friends about communism. Muslims were avoiding dangerous meats before germ theory was invented. For hundreds of years, westerners have dismissed religious knowledge and said oopsie when they later learned there was science inside the religion. I caution you not to make the same mistake.
That’s a cute story that provides a tidy explanation for religion, but is it supported by the anthropological evidence? Where are your sources? Are you sure you’re not just making up stories in an attempt to explain things that you do not understand?
As a follower of Jesus Christ, I’m disappointed you think that. I firmly believe there’s a religion for everyone on this planet. And that hatred of religion as a concept can easily lead to dismissing foreign cultures’ spiritual practices.
Why would you center your life around something that neither you, not any single person in the past 2000+ years has been able to verify or prove in even the most basic fashion?
Don’t you care about believing true things?
Why should I care about truth? I think kindness and wisdom are more important for making good decisions. Sure, truth has its place, like with medical decisions and climate policy. But it doesn’t need to infect every aspect of our lives. I don’t care about truth when I go to the movies and watch a red metal man punch a big purple man.
Because truth allows us to cure awful, painful and debilitating diseases, for one? Need more examples, or…?
Oh ok, so we just turn off the part of our brain that cares about truth for what benefit exactly?
Yes, yes, I already said truth is good for medical decisions. I just don’t think it needs to be crammed into every aspect of our lives. Sometimes people just want a break from truth.
“A break from truth” is how we end up with fascism. It’s why we end up with racism and bigotry.
No, just no. What is the benefit to any of this?
If we set aside truth for a moment, then we can enjoy fiction. It’s called suspending one’s disbelief.
You think I’m unable to enjoy fiction? I’m just able to tell the difference between fiction and reality. An ability that I believe is REALLY fucking important.
Well there you go, you don’t care about truth all the time, you have time in your life to set truth aside and enjoy fantasy. You just hadn’t realised it until I pointed it out.
Yes, I’m going to dismiss foreign culture religion, just like I dismiss my culture’s religions. They’re not special just because they’re not from here, it’s still the same humans
Worshipping people 2 thousand years dead is stupid.
And if you found out the natives of the land you live on were teaching religion to their children, would you support the government kidnapping the children and putting them with white families to learn science and writing and “civilised manners”? That’s the kind of actual historical event I’m concerned about happening when religious knowledge is valued less than white people’s idea of academic knowledge.
Religious knowledge is explicitly less valuable than academic knowledge.
I’m not talking about christian, white people’s idea of manners and civilization. That is still awful. Instead of kidnapping, that’s what public schools should be for, teaching reading, writing, and science.
Those kidnappings were genocide. I advocate for religion to be suppressed, especially the sexist and racist ones(but not only), not for all forms of culture and tradition to be suppressed.
Well I will describe a religious belief I hold to you, and I’m eager to hear what you think of it.
Burning fossil fuels is a sin. We’re not supposed to dig them out of the ground and burn them. When fossil fuels are burned, they react and turn to greenhouse gases, which warm the planet and bring natural disasters. And because Elohim is a god of great wrath, the disasters do not just harm those who sinned, but everyone, and disproportionately the poorest who don’t have the resources to survive natural disaster. To find peace with the world around us, we must stop fossil fuel emissions and sacrifice our billionaires to Elohim upon a ritual pyre.
A great example on why religious knowledge is less valuable than scientific knowledge. The belief that the issues are that simple and blocks understanding of why it happens and how to prevent similar situations from recurring.
More however, the god parts have no value. If you insert science into religion, it’s still science. The science information should be extracted from the religious knowledge, and the less valuable religious parts discarded.
And all religions have science in them. Pacific Islanders know things about wayfaring and wave dynamics that physicists are just now discovering. Colonisers in Australia spoiled the environment by disregarding indigenous conservation practices. Buddhists have been teaching western psychologists about the uses of meditation for the past two decades. The Haudenosaunee taught Karl Marx’s friends about communism. Muslims were avoiding dangerous meats before germ theory was invented. For hundreds of years, westerners have dismissed religious knowledge and said oopsie when they later learned there was science inside the religion. I caution you not to make the same mistake.
No, people invented religions in an attempt to explain things that they did not understand.
Things that the scientific method has allowed us to understand.
That is not science.
That’s a cute story that provides a tidy explanation for religion, but is it supported by the anthropological evidence? Where are your sources? Are you sure you’re not just making up stories in an attempt to explain things that you do not understand?