I see a Creality Ender 3 V3 (not SE or KE) for $130 refurbished, and also a Creality CR-10 SE for $103 refurbished on ebay. Are either or these a good choice to get into the hobby, or am I making a mistake? Should I rather buy a Bambu? My budget is around $100-$200 max. Please advise.
It depends on the type of person you are. Those machines you reference are in a class of machine where you are likely to have to put a lot of work into them to get them running reliably and probably more money than if you just bought a better printer from the get go. They are machines to recommend people who want the 3D Printer to be their hobby rather than designing and printing stuff.
If that doesn’t sound like you, just buy a used Bambu or Prusa even if you need to delay the purchase to save up longer.
Thanks for the advice. I do know that I am sort of the kind who picks the flavor of the month to get obsessed over, then throw it away for the next shiny thing, so I am a bit of both of your usecases.
It’s almost impossible to begin on a second-hand machine. It Will be a looong learning curve and you won’t obtain anything satysfying.
Best printer under 200, the A1 mini : https://eu.store.bambulab.com/fr/products/a1-mini
This is the only fiable plug and play printer for this price.
If you wan’t the whole 3dprinting learning program, you’d better find an Ender 3 v1 😉. Totally manual but very easy to tinker, a lot of tuto, big community to help.
How much would the size difference make me regret not getting a bigger one, and how soon would I reach that point?
I don’t think the smaller size is that big of a deal. I got a friend into 3d printing a year or two ago and he started with the A1 mini and still has it. Most of the stuff beginners print isn’t that big anyway. If you go with the A1 mini and find that you love it, you may want to upgrade to a bigger size in the future. If you go with something like an Ender 3, you may just give up on 3d printing all together. Bambu printers are just so user friendly.
I picked up a used ender 3 V3 se off of marketplace for $60 and had to repair it. Since then it’s been printing 10x better than my anycubic kobra neo. I think it comes down to slicer profiles in orca slicer. The ender 3 was a wildly popular printer compared to the kobra. Cheap printers cut corners but can still print good. If you’re not mechanically inclined then don’t get a cheap printer.
I’ve always heard “if you want to print things, buy Bambu. If you want to fix your printer, but an ender 3”
Wow, when did this flip happen? When I got into 3D printing, Ender 3 or any other printers based on it since it was open source was the printer to get. I’ve got a VoxelLab Aquila which is an Ender 3 clone and I have not had to do much fiddling with it aside from leveling the bed.
A creality anything shouldn’t be your first printer. I own two creality printers.
creality is for tinkerers not printers
If its your first printer I would not go for a second-hand one. There are so many ways you can subtly mess up a printer and if you don’t know your way around printers yet, then it’s quite hard to fix all that.
Considering you can get a Bambulab A1 mini which does everything out of the box and works better out of the box than an Ender 3 after months of upgrades.
Thanks for the advice. I hadn’t considered that refurbished printers are technically used ones with inspection. Is it that important to avoid used printers for a first printer? I had no idea.
I have to agree. My ender 3 has been through hell over the past 5 years, but since I am familiar with it, I can usually dial it in.
If I was just starting out I would be overwhelmed with trying to understand it AND troubleshooting.
If you have an electromechanical background, such as bench repair and/or having repaired lots of truly broken printers, then it is less of a risk imo. I know that refurbish items are usually okay, but there are bad items that make it out of any shop.
The Ender 3 is like an old Jeep Willy’s. Teaches you a ton about how it operated but it does so poorly.
I went from a highly modded Ender 3 to a stock K1. The difference in consistent quality and speed is staggering.
OP, save up your money for an enclosed printer. It makes such a big difference it’s well worth it.
The max is pretty, but the SE is more in my price range.
My use is for making little plastic bits cheaply, and I’m not concerned about time. If my kid wants to upgrade to something better, I will probably “buy” it off him.
I never got the Ender 3 to be consistent. If anything it wasted time, filament, and money because it might finish a print and it might not. Great teaching tool. Awful printer these days.
I found it to just be slow. My only complaint was some weird layer squish, but that was very wrong esteps.
