• anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz
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      1 month ago

      I never ran into PEMDAS while growing up, in Sweden I’ve always been taught of it as the following order of operations:

      1. P
      2. E & Roots
      3. M & D
      4. A & S
          • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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            1 month ago

            Division, Multiplication, Addition, and Subtraction

            This is fucking so many people over… It should be limited - like Orders - to only Multiplication and Addition.

            Because division is the same operation as multiplication, and subtraction is the same operation as addition, and they have the same “weight” in the order of operations (meaning, you do them left-to-right).

            • It should be limited - like Orders - to only Multiplication and Addition

              Because you don’t want people to know when to do Division and Subtraction? 😂

              Because division is the same operation as multiplication

              No it isn’t, but they are both binary operators.

              they have the same “weight” in the order of operations (meaning, you do them left-to-right)

              And where are they going to do Division and Subtraction in the left to right if you’ve left them out? 🙄

              • Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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                18 days ago

                Because you don’t want people to know when to do Division and Subtraction? 😂

                Because division is multiplication, and subtraction is addition.

                No it isn’t, but they are both binary operators.

                2/2 is the same as 2*½

                2-2 is the same as 2+(-2)

                And where are they going to do Division and Subtraction in the left to right if you’ve left them out? 🙄

                Well, as I already said multiple times: Division = Multiplication and Subtraction = Addition, therefore they would be doing them together, left to right. As in: 9-3+2 would not confuse anyone who learned “Addition → Subtraction”, as it does right now.

                • Because division is multiplication

                  No it isn’t.

                  and subtraction is addition

                  And you still have to do both

                  2/2 is the same as 2*½

                  They’re equal in value, they’re not the same

                  2-2 is the same as 2+(-2)

                  You got that the wrong way around. Brackets have only been used in Maths for a few centuries now

                  Well, as I already said multiple times: Division = Multiplication

                  And you were wrong every time you said it.

                  therefore they would be doing them together

                  Not if you left them out of the mnemonic and they didn’t know when to do them

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                    17 days ago

                    No it isn’t.

                    Yes, it is.

                    And you still have to do both

                    Quote the part where I said you didn’t.

                    They’re equal in value, they’re not the same

                    They are the same.

                    You got that the wrong way around. Brackets have only been used in Maths for a few centuries now

                    1. How is that “having it the wrong way around”?
                    2. What does that have to do with the topic at hand? We’re talking about maths today, not centuries ago.

                    And you were wrong every time you said it.

                    No, they’re not.

                    Not if you left them out of the mnemonic and they didn’t know when to do them

                    Mnemonic without understanding what you’re doing doesn’t help. Which is why people get confused and argue online that you must do addition before subtraction, or the other way around, depending on what the mnemonic they learned was.

                    Understanding that subtraction is just the addition of a negative number solves this problem.