• mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    What? What the hell does transporn have to do with, 1. Your personal identity and 2. How everyone else perceives trans people? Porn is fantasy not real life.

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      2 months ago

      Man, you can’t just ignore how porn molds the way people see others and what they expect of them, be it men, women or trans people

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        2 months ago

        I mean ya… But this can be said about anything at all. How about the 24 hour news cycle… Just constant news all the time screaming in your face. Or flat Earth videos on YouTube… Millions of people believe the earth is flat. Or maga propaganda permeating literally everything nowadays.

        We’re humans and can be easily influenced.

        Furthermore I don’t see a mechanism that would support what’s being said under the original comment here that would be present in porn to support what you’re saying in context.

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          2 months ago

          … How can you both understand and not understand at the same time? Are you american?

          To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor’s bias against the minority.

          If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to the existence of trans people, they’d oversexualize the idea of trans, which in turn leads them to blame/despise the trans even more (because of both their conservative views and unhealthy relationship with sex), not even leaving trans people the space to be something else in their eyes than objects to jerk off to (aka “people”).

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            2 months ago

            What does being American have to do with anything?

            Provide a source to support what is clearly a biased opinion.

            What you’re describing, objectification, is a downstream effect, not a cause. A person would already have to hold anti-trans views to behave the way you’re describing. The bias exists prior to the porn consumption, or that bias may even influence the type of content they seek out.

            Roughly 7 out of 10 people in America watch porn at least occasionally. That represents a majority of the population. More than half the country is not anti-trans, which directly undermines your claim about “the perception of trans people.”

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              2 months ago

              The person you are interacting with is trying to browbeat you because they don’t like what you are saying because they have some weird anti-porn beliefs, which frankly, a lot of people do. They themselves are falling trap to the ‘porn corrupts’ anti-sex narrative, while seemingly being critical of anti-sex narratives. I see this all the time.

              And they are mad you are suggesting that all media corrupts, and porn isn’t some super special deeply influential thing compared to any other media consumption. You evil porn-normalizer!

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                2 months ago

                Yeah, got it from the “I’m suffering, for x, y and z reasons.” “No you’re not, prove it” vibe.

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                  2 months ago

                  I’m talking about you. You are the problematic person in this exchange, especially exhibited by your need to insult and demean the other user because of your refusal to acknowledge the legitimacy of their points and push your logical leaps and over-generalization that trans porn consumption is necessarily awful.

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                    2 months ago

                    I never said trans porn or watching porn was awful. It’s not about the content, in that case. It’s about the audience.

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                2 months ago

                The guy is clearly a troll who has no idea what he’s talking about. I went at it with him for a few more exchanges and had to block him. He was more stupid than your average idiot.

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                  2 months ago

                  i think they are just blinded by their hate of republicans as being the source of all evil in the world, like most lemmy users.