There was no significant movement against datacenters until recently. You all still rely on datacenters everyday for posting on places like this or just using the internet in general. So this does look very manufactured and people were pointing this out even before OpenAI started talking about it. People didn’t really seem to hate AI before the past few years either.
You realize that it was only just recently that there’s been a huge push to a lot of new huge datacenters that need their own gas power plants because they’re ADVERTISING them for how much power they use.
Yes there were datacenters before and nobody wants to block ALL datacenters, but this push is different.
of course there is a ram shortage. the point i was trying to make that way more people are affected by increasing power prices they have to pay anyways, than by computers that got more expensive.
Ai wasn’t widely discussed until these past few years because it wasn’t threatening to take our jobs then.
Of course we are using data centers for places like these, but these public forums are built for people. While the CEO of Nvidia only referred to people in his latest (?) speech as “humans”, and the only reasonable explanation would be to distance yourself from everyone so you don’t feel the empathetic pain of being the direct cause of the ram shortage.
Not to mention, the cost of producing AI generated images is significantly more than just saving and sending and receiving text and images for a place like this.
There was no significant movement against datacenters until recently. You all still rely on datacenters everyday for posting on places like this or just using the internet in general. So this does look very manufactured and people were pointing this out even before OpenAI started talking about it. People didn’t really seem to hate AI before the past few years either.
You realize that it was only just recently that there’s been a huge push to a lot of new huge datacenters that need their own gas power plants because they’re ADVERTISING them for how much power they use.
Yes there were datacenters before and nobody wants to block ALL datacenters, but this push is different.
Maybe because until recent years corporations didn’t hoard the world computation power to run glorified chatbots.
the actual scarcity is just power, not even compute
And you know. Water.
Severe drought in much of the United States this year, and they want to use what water we have to take your job
yup, that too, but luckily evaporative cooling is starting to go out of fashion
Only because they are being forced to.
Don’t speak as if they are doing out of the goodness of their own hearts…
i was just saying that it is a net positive, im not trying to defend the people building all those datacenters
Try building a PC.
of course there is a ram shortage. the point i was trying to make that way more people are affected by increasing power prices they have to pay anyways, than by computers that got more expensive.
Ai wasn’t widely discussed until these past few years because it wasn’t threatening to take our jobs then.
Of course we are using data centers for places like these, but these public forums are built for people. While the CEO of Nvidia only referred to people in his latest (?) speech as “humans”, and the only reasonable explanation would be to distance yourself from everyone so you don’t feel the empathetic pain of being the direct cause of the ram shortage.
Not to mention, the cost of producing AI generated images is significantly more than just saving and sending and receiving text and images for a place like this.
AI generated images are something you can do on a gaming GPU at home. It’s not really that demanding compared to frontier LLMs and agents.