Microsoft is losing Builders fast. They’re switching to MacOS and Linux. The biggest pull keeping people on Windows, outside of shear inertia, is content creation and gaming. However, even these are falling to Linux.
Without Builders, you don’t have software, and without software, you don’t have users. This is why Microsoft needs Windows Lite.
Microsoft needs to accept that their time has passed
Microsoft needs to die.
I remember saying that in the early 2000s…
10 years ago I would have said maybe. Now? Practicly everything that you run on Windows will run, in some form or another, on Linux. Even the hard to crack gaming is now becoming a non issue. There really is no point in Windows any longer.
I had no idea how easy gaming had got since my last attempt with Linux. That was until the most recent Microsoft bugs erased all my files… I was so enraged I didn’t even try to recover them, I just installed linux mint. Found out I could indeed play the couple games I’ve been holding on to windows for. Haven’t booted windows since.
Microsoft is now offering Azure Linux.
well, linus won. He said when they’d write software for linux, he won. I guess he quadruple won, since microslop has their own distro
You need to abandon windows. You know their goals. You know they can’t be trusted. Stop giving them chances to get it right and fuck you.
.NET is just a runtime, not problematic at all, and definitely doesn’t deserve to be lumped in with ads, spyware, and AI.
It’s probably Microsofts best product
Probably Microsoft’s best stupidest name too, except maybe renaming the remote desktop app to “Windows App”.
I hate that rename so much, it makes it impossible to search anything about it. Another fun fact is the process name for “Windows App” is Windows365.exe 🤦
But it’s so sloooowwww
Compares to what? Electron apps or ffmpeg level of assembler?
Native?!
Native what? AoT compiled dotnet code? Bad C++ code?
I suppose bad C++ code if those are the only options?
Of course not. But saying an entire framework is bad is silly. That is my entire point. Thanks for agreeing with me.
Maybe have a look at https://michaelscodingspot.com/csharp-performance-vs-c/
no its not.
It’s only slow if you’re running a slow computer. Anyway it’s way faster than all your electron apps which each insist on taking up four for gigabytes of RAM
We should also get rid of the Windows C++ Redistributable packages as well!
Might as well get rid of Windows after that
Yep. Plenty of games depends on it too.
If you want Windows Lite then you might as well commit to Linux.
Plenty of YouTube videos on tons of different distros for anyone to find their starter distro that’s similar to Windows.
No .NET 😂 what’s still running after that?
the fact that you list .net shows you dont have the knowledge to make this claim
It’s easier to just use Linux.
Windows losing noticeable numbers of users is a huge net gain for society. Hopefully it continues, regardless of Microslop’s actions.
Microsoft is losing Builders fast.
Good.
This is why Microsoft needs Windows Lite.
No, Windows needs to lose more users. Hope they never change.
We have that. Its called Arch. And I’ve done .net development on it.
You probably mean NetCore which is not equal to .NET framework.
I dunno bro, it was a .Net project with EF core stuff in it. .Net aint my primary wheelhouse.
Appears to be, that I am wrong too, they renamed the things a couple of times. Dot-NetCore is now DotNet and .NET Framework is the win lib that existed before NetCore and still does
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Whenever I see this, I’m curious as to why
Wow, it still notifies me. This, like I imagine most of life’s mysteries, has a very mundane explanation. I had just woken up, and in the haze I thought I was in a Linux gaming sub and made a very gaming centric comment. I realized the focus was very obviously not on gaming only after I posted.
I hope you can sleep more soundly tonight knowing I’m ok <3
Yeah that’s cool, fair enough. Be well!
For what its worth, gaming on linux is dope. Never ever going back.
to little, not late. Been a avid windows user since `95, used all of them up to 11 no exception, pivoted 3 years ago to linux, and at this point there is literally not a thing that will bring me back. Linux is 1000x better for me, free of charge, more polished, faster, better looking, no BS, and if there IS any bs, i can move to another distro that i like. There is literally not a single thing. Those kernel level anti cheat games… fuck em, i got 1000’s of games to play that work on steam and gog and uplay and battle.net and all other platforms flawlessly no problem and been waiting to play em.
What is wrong with .NET, it’s very useful when running applications which require it which of course is basically every application in a corporate environment.
But yeah all the other things are fine.
I’m fairly certain this post is specifically excluding corporate environments
I also don’t quite understand the dislike of dotnet, though. I mean I don’t like it either, but idk why
.net (core) is a mature framework and collection of great languages that work really well, perform really well, and is truly cross platform and open source. It’s the best thing Microsoft offers.
I completely agree. My dislike is based purely in emotion
What’s wrong with .NET?
Nothing, bias from the .NET Framework days probably
I don’t really know what it is, but I do know that a whole bunch of stuff doesn’t work if you don’t have it installed. That and Java.
It’s just a framework for some code (usually that written in C#) to run on. It’s not a windows only thing either. Just that on Linux if it’s required it’ll just get installed via the package manager, so you won’t see the usual GUI installer that is often packaged with some games (even though you might already have it installed).
It used to be VB.net and other such stuff. It WAS pretty terrible. Ive had to pick apart some pretty horrendous applications. Then Mono/C# popped up and a lot of community effort went into making everything better. It helps that .net stole a LOT of functionality from Rails/Django/etc… and make it much easier for devs to do actual work on it.
The problem is when we talk about .net it could be a huge combo of tech from the last 10+ years. The newest iteration is fine. Its fast at least with C#.
Everything from .NET Core onwards has been a blast to work with in my opinion. And it got even better when .NET 8 came out and I’ve genuinely been excited for every major release since.
So a Microsoft product got good after it became open source?
Yep, it’s arguably the best thing they’ve done and still currently do I’m actually surprised the core .NET team haven’t been corrupted yet. I always find it funny that all of the bigger guys that show off the new features and improvements in their preview showcases never use windows.
Sadly the Visual Studio and VS Code team seem to have been corrupted though because 95% of all new features for those always seem to be centered around AI. I use Rider personally now, and Im looking forward to eventually moving over to that for work at some point too.
I personally like C# and NOT .net…but im a weirdo.
I’m curious, how do you go about using C# without .NET?
