• Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    territorial waters is 12 nautical miles

    Most nations defend out to 200-300 miles.

    Regardless, “we’re the nearest continental landmass, but it’s still a really fucking long way” is not, and never has been, a valid excuse to fucking invade somewhere.

    Never said it was, just that it bolsters their claim of ownership.

    Having said that, would any nation wait indefinitely on a diplomatic solution for another nation to return land that they believe belongs to them?

    If the British refused to give Hong Kong back to China, what would the Chinese have done?

    If the Chinese had taken over Hawaii or the Catalina Islands off the coast of California, what would the US have done?

    As for the history, they were either discovered by the British or the Dutch, uninhabited. The only people to have ever lived there that weren’t part of a temporary garrison are the ancestors or the current population. It’s their home, and Argentina’s only interaction with the place is as a failing state engaging in a war of conquest.

    That’s not correct. If you read over the link that I’ve posted way too many times in this thread, you’ll see that. Also, their claim is based on the fact that Spain owned the islands, and they inherited them when they won their independence from Spain, so its not just about if Argentinian boots were on the ground there (though there WERE boots at one point as well).

    • goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org
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      10 months ago

      @CosmicCleric I can believe I want a fucking pony. Doesn’t make it so.

      Imperial Spain has a long history of being told to go fuck itself by people it tried to conquer. It also, along with Britain, has a shameful history of stealing bits of land from people unable to defend themselves. One such example is, oh, Argentina, a settler colonial state established by the Spanish at the expense of the people already living there.

      The Falkands, on the other hand, were populated by penguins, and penguin shit before the current settlement was established. They are a rare example of the British Empire having actual clean hands in the establishment of a colony.

      Now the descendants of the people who nicked Patagonia from its original inhabitants want to play continuity Hapsburg shit. “Oh, that’s 500 km from us, we want it”. Paris is less than that distance from London. What do you think the Louvre would have to say if the British Museum demanded the Mona Lisa?

      Yeah. Thought so. Regardless, if Argentina want to get the same response (being told to fuck off by people with bigger guns) the way mummy and daddy have been for centuries, fine. Come and have a go if you think you’re hard enough (hint, you aren’t.)