let’s be completely real here though, lab grown meat does not scale at all - it’s low scale, insanely expensive and probably not all that environmentally friendly when you count all the steps too. All this is just for political points, it does not really make a tiny bit of a difference.
That’s true as of now, but if we stopped subsidising farmers and spent that funding on lab grow technology then, much like solar, it would go from expensive niche to cheap mainstream a whole lot quicker. All decisions like this do is slow that process down.
or, you know, we could incentivize people to stop eating beef and eat meat with lower carbon footprint and put the money that would go into lab grown meat research into something that will actually have some impact.
Peronally, every time I hear about lab grown meat just the pure stupidity of it makes me want to have a nice, juicy, old-school grass-fed ribeye.
source: I’m a biochem phd that works with bioreactors
I mean, I don’t disagree but ultimately it’s going to be which ever option goes down the easiest with the general population: ‘eat less beef’ or ‘continue eating beef’. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for reducing the amount of meat we eat in general, and I’ve been doing that myself, but from my uneducated view-point lab grown meat appears to offer greater benefits, and fewer disbenefits compared to trying to persuade people to adopt the current alternatives. Not just from a environmental point of view but ethical as well.
And don’t forget: we can do both. We can research improvements to lab grown meat and other alternatives at the same time. These shouldn’t be binary choices.
How did you feel about the SAG-AFTRA strikes over AI?
Edit: I feel like this reads as snarky but it’s a genuine question. I feel like these are complex situations. AI cannot be allowed to be curtailed for protectionist reasons, but there are serious likeness ownership concerns in entertainment media.
I imagine similar problems with the US beef industry so want your take.
The AI industry is going to obliterate significant chunks of the white collar workforce the same way the robotics industry has, and will continue to, obliterate the manufacturing workforce.
In the long term this will be a good thing but I think we’re in for a very bumpy and interesting next 20-25 years.
I don’t understand, on what basis should one kind of job be protected at the expense of another?
On the basis that one of the jobs’s capital holder has enough money to buy politicians.
Because fuck the environment, we gotta keep the farmers happy.
let’s be completely real here though, lab grown meat does not scale at all - it’s low scale, insanely expensive and probably not all that environmentally friendly when you count all the steps too. All this is just for political points, it does not really make a tiny bit of a difference.
That’s true as of now, but if we stopped subsidising farmers and spent that funding on lab grow technology then, much like solar, it would go from expensive niche to cheap mainstream a whole lot quicker. All decisions like this do is slow that process down.
or, you know, we could incentivize people to stop eating beef and eat meat with lower carbon footprint and put the money that would go into lab grown meat research into something that will actually have some impact.
Peronally, every time I hear about lab grown meat just the pure stupidity of it makes me want to have a nice, juicy, old-school grass-fed ribeye.
source: I’m a biochem phd that works with bioreactors
I mean, I don’t disagree but ultimately it’s going to be which ever option goes down the easiest with the general population: ‘eat less beef’ or ‘continue eating beef’. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for reducing the amount of meat we eat in general, and I’ve been doing that myself, but from my uneducated view-point lab grown meat appears to offer greater benefits, and fewer disbenefits compared to trying to persuade people to adopt the current alternatives. Not just from a environmental point of view but ethical as well.
And don’t forget: we can do both. We can research improvements to lab grown meat and other alternatives at the same time. These shouldn’t be binary choices.
If AI is anything to go by, most people think white-collar jobs should be protected while blue-collar jobs should be automated.
Money
How did you feel about the SAG-AFTRA strikes over AI?
Edit: I feel like this reads as snarky but it’s a genuine question. I feel like these are complex situations. AI cannot be allowed to be curtailed for protectionist reasons, but there are serious likeness ownership concerns in entertainment media.
I imagine similar problems with the US beef industry so want your take.
I feel like it’s a shining example of hypocrisy among city-folk and white-collar workers.
They legitimately think they’re better than everyone else and rules should be made for them.
The AI industry is going to obliterate significant chunks of the white collar workforce the same way the robotics industry has, and will continue to, obliterate the manufacturing workforce.
In the long term this will be a good thing but I think we’re in for a very bumpy and interesting next 20-25 years.
the term is “vested interests”
Unfortunately the environment of cash isn’t as entangling in the artificial meat space as it is in the old fashioned meat space