Snopes’ take on this is really weird. They seem to be bending over backwards to invent an alternative narrative for him for some reason.
Listening to the videos, it sounds pretty clear to me that Trump did in fact say “we’ve been waging an all-out a war on American democracy.” Not in. _In _doesn’t even make any sense in the context. You wage war _in _a place, like Ukraine or Palestine. You wage war _on _a concept, like terror or democracy.
That said, I can definitely give him a pass that he didn’t mean what he said. I can believe that it was very much a gaffe, because he is such a goddamned moron who rambles on without thinking. It sounds to me like he wanted to express that he is fighting in a war that his opponents are waging on American democracy, and he just said it wrong because he’s a fucking idiot. It seems obvious that’s what he meant to say, and he just said it wrong.
Which is what makes this snopes article so weird… why call the claim false and then defend him in this way? Why not rate this as mixture? Oh well…
I remember like a decade+ ago they were considered reliable. No idea if that was false all along and they were just very convincing or they’ve genuinely degraded.
It was run by a husband and wife. The husband cheated on her, they divorced, and he seized the website, then sold it, then set up a GoFundMe to try and seize it back. Not sure who runs it now
What kinda sucks here is that to me, it does sound like “in America.” So you’re going to have people thinking it’s one way or the other, people are going to argue over the semantics, and completely ignore the implications of another Trump presidency in favor of inane bickering.
Snopes’ take on this is really weird. They seem to be bending over backwards to invent an alternative narrative for him for some reason.
Listening to the videos, it sounds pretty clear to me that Trump did in fact say “we’ve been waging an all-out a war on American democracy.” Not in. _In _doesn’t even make any sense in the context. You wage war _in _a place, like Ukraine or Palestine. You wage war _on _a concept, like terror or democracy.
That said, I can definitely give him a pass that he didn’t mean what he said. I can believe that it was very much a gaffe, because he is such a goddamned moron who rambles on without thinking. It sounds to me like he wanted to express that he is fighting in a war that his opponents are waging on American democracy, and he just said it wrong because he’s a fucking idiot. It seems obvious that’s what he meant to say, and he just said it wrong.
Which is what makes this snopes article so weird… why call the claim false and then defend him in this way? Why not rate this as mixture? Oh well…
Because Snopes is trash.
I remember like a decade+ ago they were considered reliable. No idea if that was false all along and they were just very convincing or they’ve genuinely degraded.
It was run by a husband and wife. The husband cheated on her, they divorced, and he seized the website, then sold it, then set up a GoFundMe to try and seize it back. Not sure who runs it now
Damn, that sounds like a read, do you have a link I couid follow to read up more?
I believe this is the one I read.
https://mashable.com/article/snopes-lawsuit-gofundme
I dunno how it played out after that
Perfect! Thank you!
The only way to justify it IMO is if he meant “for”.
What kinda sucks here is that to me, it does sound like “in America.” So you’re going to have people thinking it’s one way or the other, people are going to argue over the semantics, and completely ignore the implications of another Trump presidency in favor of inane bickering.
They have done that for over a decade, I don’t understand why people ever took them seriously.