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    Oh hot damn I’m so relieved. I was pretty worried she’d go with Shapiro, and then have a solid argument against her based on his service in the Israeli military. After seeing multiple people on lemmy say “They shouldn’t choose Tim Walz… we want to keep him for our selves”, that seemed like a solid endorsement by his constituents. Then Bernie endorsed the guy, so I feel pretty damn good about this selection if it proves to be true.

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        Nope, but serving in the IDF, and having some vocal opinions on the campus protests in favor of Palestine is just the thing Harris doesn’t need to be saddled with.

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          Walz is a low risk, medium reward pick. Shapiro is reverse. Can’t win the Presidency without Pennsylvania. I think the jabber that the far left came up with regarding Shapiro is shameful and embarrassing, but the choice is made and it’s time to move forward.

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            Yeah, but you celebrate the genocide. I know you post a lot so the arguments between us from months ago will be far back in the history, but there is nothing surprising about someone who justifies genocide siding with the candidate who served in the military that is currently committing genocide.

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                I don’t need to try again, but when you post seemingly innocuous opinions that tangentially touch on your support for genocide without referencing it, and I see it, I will post so that others will know that they are interacting with something posted by someone that supports genocide.

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            I’d spend more time on a response to someone that doesn’t make bad faith arguments and supports genocide.

            For you, though? No.

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    Wow! I can’t believe she didn’t intentionally make the obviously worse choice. Unironically. This is entirely new territory as a democratic voter!

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      I see it as purposeful messaging that they’re willing to change and be more progressive, if that’s what we want. Now we need to prove them right and get out to the polls.

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        To be fair though, democrats don’t have a problem getting out to the polls, especially for national elections. No Republican has won the popular vote for 20 years; the only Republican wins in this time were based on technicalities.

        I think what we’ll see in November is the same high voting numbers, but a much different demographics pivoting the central block from old centrists to younger progressives.

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            That’s the last legit Republican National win. He only won the popular vote in 2004 due to 9/11. He lost the popular vote in 2000 and won by Supreme Court decision.

            These fuckers HAVE to cheat to win.

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              That was also a colossal violation of the Constitution, because of probability and statistics.

              I was too young to understand at the time, but I read that the conservative justices blocked the recount citing concern that the batch of uncounted votes might indicate an attempt by Democrats to steal the election.

              But we can easily show that the uncounted batch was too small to change anything. Consider that, even if every single uncounted vote went to Gore, the resulting variance would still reside well within a statistical margin of error for that sample.

              In other words, that election was the US’ first true tie in a presidential election since 1800. By the constitution it should have triggered a contingent election, which is the business of the legislative branch, NOT judicial.

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      I hoped that Biden dropping out heralded a tipping point away from the arrogant, conservative old guard that was stifling progress and toward a more progressive future.

      I’m more hopeful still. I missed hope.

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    The Democrats need an effective communicator that really connects with people.

    I’m excited for this ticket, not because I’m Minnesotan, but because the country desperately needs Waltz, on television, at least as much as MAGAs have been. His rational and relatable mind is a remedy to the years of maddening bullshit that have been blasting us lower and lower to the depths.

    I was so jaded by the Democrats and their inability to escape their ivory tower of power and even attempt to relate to me, that I was firmly resolved to vote RFK this election.

    Now they offer a glimmer of hope. Here’s hoping the tides are changing and they actually have conviction behind their normally hollow words. Biden has achieved some progressive agendas, and thankfully he released his grip to let others continue his surprising work.

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      RFK is terrible.

      Last Week Tonight did a whole hour on him on Sunday. It’s on YouTube.

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      It has video clips from interviews where he himself brings up that he was friends with Epstein, OJ, and Bill Cosby. When he himself was accused with rape, his response was “I’m not a church boy” and “more might come out.”

      There are also video clips showing how on more liberal interviews he says with vaccines he’s open to changing his mind (and even apologizing) if he’s introduced to new facts showing they’re safe. But then he routinely goes on conservative shows and tells them that vaccines are not safe and that he goes up to random people in the park to tell them not to vaccinate their kids.

      He also went to Samoa and influenced the death of over 80 people by inspiring a fear of vaccines. (Last Week Tonight shows photos of him there and the welcoming ceremony they put on for him.) But when asked about Samoa, he denies even going there.

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        I felt so bad for john oliver watching that episode, airing right after the news broke of RFK abandoning a dead bear cub in Central Park 10 years ago. The downside of pre-recording the day before I guess. Can’t wait for the follow up next week.

        Don’t vote for RFK

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        He’s a Kennedy, I’m sure he’s been around a great number of people. But of all the interviews I’ve seen, both before and after his intention to run for president, I never heard him refer to those people as his friends. He had rational reasons for his relationship as far as Epstein goes. I don’t have any reason to believe he was a child rapist.

        As far as the other two, all I can say is that famous people tend to talk to other famous people at parties. It doesn’t mean RFK approves of their behavior or character. If you have evidence of the contrary I’m all ears. Cherry picked sounds bytes don’t impress me so you don’t have to bother with that.

        Also I’m not saying he’s the pinnacle of greatness. He only had to top Trump and Biden, and that’s not hard to do this election. There were other Democrats I would have gladly voted for but the DNC and Biden didn’t give me the chance.

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        I did end up watching that episode. The part where Jon called him a red-pilled Smokey the Bear was really funny.

        The accusation wasn’t of rape but sexual assault, which is quite different, though no less wrong.

        The show makes the distinction of mainstream and not. Not sure the real difference is liberal versus conservative.

        And the Samoa situation is really strange, but I don’t think Robert went around and told locals to not vaccinate. I said in another comment that he has something to answer for here, but saying he is responsible seems like speculation, given the evidence as presented.

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      Glad you changed your mind but RFK literally caused babies to die in Samoa in an anti MMR vaccine campaign he called an experiment.

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          Sorry it took so long to get back at you but here’s a link from a quick search. Honestly I think it’s minimizing his influence even in that article but it should explain.

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            No worries, I really appreciate your follow-up.

            I agree with Robert’s professed view that vaccines should have enhanced safety protocols to ensure positive health outcomes. Specifically, a long term study on ingredients and so forth. This, he claims, stems from the staggering increase in child health issues in the past forty years. It makes perfect sense to want to use US health institutions to research possible causes and get to the bottom of it. I don’t trust monied interests, but I do trust the scientific method.

            However, scaremongering is wrong, and that appears to be what caused the issue. It isn’t perfectly clear that Robert directly has blood on his hands, but it does seem like the company he kept at the time has done some damage, and so he at least has something to answer for here.

            Thanks again for getting back to me on this.

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              His issue was specifically with mercury. Which was in medically insignificant amounts at the time and is no longer used.

              The medical consensus on the increase in childhood issues over the past forty years is that it’s not really in increase. It’s an increase in diagnosis. 40 years ago most kids who had an autism spectrum issue were undiagnosed and remain so to this day.

              However what we do have on our hands are measles outbreaks and polio on the horizon due to vaccine skepticism. I saw a study yesterday on Lemmy showing that 31% of Republicans think vaccines are worse than the diseases they prevent, which is total insanity. Few seem to understand herd immunity or even really the purpose of vaccination.

              I think it’s because we haven’t seen children dying large numbers due to measles and all the people who were crippled for life by polio are dead. Because we vaccinated almost everyone. Now that it’s a distant memory people question what the vaccines are for.