• Nobody@lemmy.world
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    1 年前

    Bernie: Here’s a bill that will help literally everyone. People waste less of their lives at work, and productivity goes up massively for the corporate overlords. There is no downside here for anyone.

    Everyone: Shut up, hippy.

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      1 年前

      Everyone: Shut up, hippy.

      Don’t listen to them, when they tell you that. As far as you know, might even be an astroturfer, trying to kill this in the crib.

      Call your House of Representative member and let them know that you want this bill to become law.

      If we citizens don’t apply the pressure, nothing will happen.

      And if your cynical about doing that, try it anyway, just as an experiment, to see what happens. Hell, even make a YouTube video about your experience doing so, for content.

      Just say "Please let my representative know that I am in favor of the Bernie Sanders bill (Thirty-Two Hour Workweek Act) for a 32 hour work week."

      It’s just a phone call. A 32 hour work week is worth a single phone call, right?

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      Unfortunately that’s a fairly naive take that fails to consider how most people work in the US- hourly employees would be fucked by this.

      Retail, service, anyone whose not already working 9-5 office jobs; the reality is that they won’t loose pay, but they will loose hours. And you can bet your ass that companies won’t pay more to make up for it.

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        they lose hours but the hourly pay goes up, just like everybody else, no? I haven’t read the bill but I would be surprised if that’s not in there.

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          First off, it needs to be noted that the only mechanism to do that on so large a scale is to increase the minimum wage.

          Which is how they did it in ‘38 when the work week went to 44, and in ‘40 when it when to what it is today.

          The problem is that company are absolutely going to pass that off to customers (aka, the workers… ultimately.) and so really all you’ve done, effectively, is put far more people onto minimum wage.

          Anyone who was above that mimimim? Gets the shaft.

          And people who now are on minimum? Working two jobs to pay for everything (like most people in the bottom quarter are already doing anyhow,) so they don’t really see reduced hours anyway.

          It’s well meaning and it’d be nice, but it needs to be done differently. Unions are strong now. Stronger than they have been since I’ve been working. Join a union. Make the change yourself; eventually it’ll get normalized without the above problems. (Also, better wages, healthcare, workplace safety and everything else Unions get you.)(don’t tell my boss’s boss that. He’s still buthurt from negotiating a new contract.)

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            The problem is that company are absolutely going to pass that off to customers (aka, the workers… ultimately.)

            News flash, they’re going to be raising prices regardless.

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              And they won’t tack that on, too, anyhow?

              Chances are they’ll pass on the costs, increase the price, anyhow, shrink products, and raise prices even more, and then blame the last three on the first.

              Exactly like they’ve been doing.