Okay. Find me the picture of klan robes at a Trump rally. If you want to color the entire movement you need that evidence. Not 5 people in the middle of nowhere.
You can also search “nazi flag at trump rally”, and get loads of pictures of people at his rallies carrying flags of hate. Just because they’re not necessarily allowed wearing clan hoods does it mean everything is a’ok.
No sir. I’m not seeing that with “Nazi Flag at Trump Rally” and CPAC isn’t even on the radar of the average voter. Most people have their interaction with Trump at his rallies and via conservative news. I’m not saying everything is okay. The man brought back 1800’s xenophobic myths on the national debate stage. But again the average voter isn’t thinking about it that way. They’re engaged with it in a fearful way because that’s how Fox News gave it to them.
And you guys are still massively missing the point. This is a third of our country. Alienating them plays into the hand of extremists. They need to see they’re wrong. Not be shunned out of a society that killed their jobs, left them in broken towns, brought them the opioid crisis, and ignores their needs. They are the epitome of believing government is broken because the Republicans broke it. And you can’t fix that by calling them trash. You have to find a way to bring them good governance again. Get them back into mainstream stuff.
This entire flipping thread has been nothing but a project in othering. And you can’t do that to 33% of your country without severe consequences.
No sir. I’m not seeing that with “Nazi Flag at Trump Rally”
I misspoke on this part. I was thinking of the confederate flags being pared with trump flags/rallies.
CPAC isn’t even on the radar of the average voter.
I don’t think that particularly matters. If your party’s political ideology aligns well enough with neo nazis for them to have a seat at the table, you have a neo-nazi party. Just because they’re subtle about it doesn’t make the supporters innocent.
They’re engaged with it in a fearful way because that’s how Fox News gave it to them.
That’s the main mechanism of fascism. They can be unaware of it all they like, they’re still supporting fascism. You’re still hillbilly trash so to speak.
This is a third of our country. Alienating them plays into the hand of extremists.
Yeah, it’s a third of our country. And ignoring how they’re flirting with fascism also plays into the hands of the extremists. There is no winning in a situation like this. And so I’d rather be honest given that it’s a no win situation.
If playing nice with fascists/fascist supporters was a viable strategy, we wouldn’t be arguing about this.
If you have no problem hanging out with Klan members, you are hillbilly trash.
Okay. Find me the picture of klan robes at a Trump rally. If you want to color the entire movement you need that evidence. Not 5 people in the middle of nowhere.
Slightly different than what you’re asking, but in the same line of thought:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nazis-mingle-openly-cpac-spreading-antisemitic-conspiracy-theories-fin-rcna140335
You can also search “nazi flag at trump rally”, and get loads of pictures of people at his rallies carrying flags of hate. Just because they’re not necessarily allowed wearing clan hoods does it mean everything is a’ok.
No sir. I’m not seeing that with “Nazi Flag at Trump Rally” and CPAC isn’t even on the radar of the average voter. Most people have their interaction with Trump at his rallies and via conservative news. I’m not saying everything is okay. The man brought back 1800’s xenophobic myths on the national debate stage. But again the average voter isn’t thinking about it that way. They’re engaged with it in a fearful way because that’s how Fox News gave it to them.
And you guys are still massively missing the point. This is a third of our country. Alienating them plays into the hand of extremists. They need to see they’re wrong. Not be shunned out of a society that killed their jobs, left them in broken towns, brought them the opioid crisis, and ignores their needs. They are the epitome of believing government is broken because the Republicans broke it. And you can’t fix that by calling them trash. You have to find a way to bring them good governance again. Get them back into mainstream stuff.
This entire flipping thread has been nothing but a project in othering. And you can’t do that to 33% of your country without severe consequences.
I misspoke on this part. I was thinking of the confederate flags being pared with trump flags/rallies.
I don’t think that particularly matters. If your party’s political ideology aligns well enough with neo nazis for them to have a seat at the table, you have a neo-nazi party. Just because they’re subtle about it doesn’t make the supporters innocent.
That’s the main mechanism of fascism. They can be unaware of it all they like, they’re still supporting fascism. You’re still hillbilly trash so to speak.
Yeah, it’s a third of our country. And ignoring how they’re flirting with fascism also plays into the hands of the extremists. There is no winning in a situation like this. And so I’d rather be honest given that it’s a no win situation.
If playing nice with fascists/fascist supporters was a viable strategy, we wouldn’t be arguing about this.