The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers

The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.

  • kescusay@lemmy.world
    1617·
    3 months ago

    I’m sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to explain how this isn’t what it absolutely, positively is.

    • odelik@lemmy.today
      575·
      3 months ago

      Our biggest offender would, but they’re currently serving a 3-day ban for Sealioning (public mod logs are awesome).

    • darharrison@lemm.ee
      524·
      3 months ago

      “Anything to beat the ‘duopoly’ of political parties, even if the party is tainted by neo-fascist dark money!”

      Absolutely wild mental gymnastics lol

        • darharrison@lemm.ee
          4·
          2 months ago

          You can spare Lemmy the whataboutisms with this one. Everyone is taking a little money from everyone else, but:

          Neo-fascists absolutely prefer giving to the Republican Party above all other major parties and vice versa. It’s an open-and-shut case. Hardliners in the party routinely echo anything and everything that gets them brownie points from dictators and the country’s most degenerate billionaires.

          The Democratic Party is not perfect (Israel being the elephant in the room, but make no mistake, Bibi 100% wants Trump back in office). But if anyone is pushing back against the return of fascism the most it’s the Dems. And you can see that in hostilities from Republicans and authoritarian governments alike.

          The Green Party’s main candidate accepted gifts from the Russian Federation through their news network RT, which is basically a propaganda machine for the government which owns them. Stein’s ads openly said in 2016 that the Greens wanted Hillary to lose, fearmongering nuclear war with Russia. And this year it’s the same old shit with her: just make the Dems lose.

          (Side note, Sputnik hired PSL’s Eugene Puryear as a long-time host. Also, PSL also has absolutely insane foreign positions. Like I’ll be the first to say the West is absolutely an imperfect cultural entity, but you don’t gotta just hand it to Putin or Kim Jong Un because they also have a problem with the hegemony.)

          • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
            13·
            2 months ago

            You should maybe learn a bit more about “whataboutism” because you seem to not be aware of when to apply it.

            What I am saying is, if you dislike the green party because Russian money has made it into their coffers, but you won’t apply the same standard to democrats, then you are a hypocritical, and your message fails in my opinion.

            If you think the democrats have the strongest stance against facism, you don’t understand the meaning of the word facism.

            The democrats haven’t moved this country away from facism meaningfully in any way. They move the country towards profit, thats it. The republicans and democrats disagree on how to profit off the worlds misery and to what extent, but both are fascists.

            The irony that americans can’t see how close republicans and democrats are in their intolerance and abuse of others.

            Democrats: “We want to abuse non-white folk in other countries for profit!”

            Republicans: “we want to abuse our own people to make profit!”

            If you really think anyone who’s critical of the democrats is a shill or some other bullshit, then I wish you the best but thats a childish perspective.

    • KnitWit@lemmy.world
      391·
      3 months ago

      Probably at the stage where it turns into ‘it doesn’t matter since she won’t win anyway, this is just a protest vote to show support for third party.’

          • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6512·
            3 months ago

            If you actively go to the polls and while you’re there – instead of voting for Kamala Harris, the only viable candidate against Trump’s pro-Russia fascism – you choose to vote for a Russia-planted spoiler candidate and you live in a state that’s not safe red or safe blue, then yes, you are pro-Putin’s regime, and you unequivocally suck ass as a person.

            • John Richard@lemmy.world
              1042·
              3 months ago

              If you go cast your vote at the polls and you’re so braindead that you can’t fathom another third-party candidate is running without being a Russian agent in disguise, and you’re so scared that your candidate that you’ve convinced yourself is a perfect deity still might lose to a lunatic, then maybe you should re-evaluate why it is that people no longer trust Democrats blindly like you think they should.

              • Krauerking@lemy.lol
                34·
                3 months ago

                The only reason she loses is cause the peasants didn’t know what was good for the economy.

                • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
                  23·
                  2 months ago

                  And what about the huge group of people who care more about morals than money? Just fuck them? Oh no, I forgot, they are Russians right?

                  Do you really not see how your intolerance is exactly the same as republicans? You know you can vote democrat and still criticize them too right?

                  • Krauerking@lemy.lol
                    22·
                    2 months ago

                    People do not like to be “nitpicked” it makes them feel bad so then they get to lash out and hurt others because they were “hurt” by being asked to correct or better themselves.
                    And then everyone applauds their bravery for standing up for themselves cause they want to be the bullies too. And it’s easy to regard the people being told off as lesser or not people.

          • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
            347·
            3 months ago

            Let he who hasn’t dined at the same table as Putin cast the first stone.

            What do you mean that’s everyone but Jill?

              • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
                415·
                3 months ago

                Quoting verbatim from a previous comment of mine because it’s literally not worth my time to come up with something original to the same exact stupid, worthless argument:

                Third-party fringe candidate who gets less than 1% of the vote having dinner with Putin, Trump’s national security advisor who was later arrested for lying to the FBI about his ties to Russia, and several major Russian political figures before an election in which Russian interference provably helped Trump win.

                The US president acting in an official capacity and meeting with the leader of a major world power.

                “They’re the same picture.”

                Boy, Russian bots Jill Stein stans are really tripping over each other to see who’s the biggest, dumbest idiot, aren’t they?

                • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
                  15·
                  2 months ago

                  Democrat Stans really are tripping all over each other to see who’s the biggest, most intolerant facist, aren’t they?

                • John Richard@lemmy.world
                  639·
                  3 months ago

                  You mean the same investigation that found no evidence that Jill Stein was working with Russia? Let me guess, in your mind she’s so deep and undercover that it is more about a feeling than needing any evidence at all.

          • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
            198·
            3 months ago

            Leftists: The Green Parry isn’t a throwaway vote at all! Here’s my 40 paragraph manifesto that explains it all with YouTube links and op-ed opinion pieces to validate the proof!

                • John Richard@lemmy.world
                  423·
                  3 months ago

                  Almost as convincing as you calling a US citizen in Washington state a Chinese Government agent. Maybe if you want to be taken seriously in the future, actually provide some facts or say something productive.

                  • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    103·
                    3 months ago

                    I didn’t call you anything, I just mocked your attempt at a PeeWee Herman defense. Maybe if you want to be taken seriously in the future you should learn how screen names work so you don’t embarrass yourself.